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Why Modern-Day Prophecy Theorists are More Dangerous than Harold Camping
American Vision ^ | May 23, 2011 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 05/23/2011 7:20:22 AM PDT by topcat54

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"The Camping fiasco would have been a great time to wipe the slate clean of all prophetic speculation, from Hal Lindsey’s Late Great Planet Earth (1970) that predicted Jesus would “rapture” the church before 1988 to Mark Hitchcock’s The Late Great United States (2009), while not setting a particular date, still argues that all the signs are in place for the nearness of the “rapture.”"
1 posted on 05/23/2011 7:20:25 AM PDT by topcat54
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"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 05/23/2011 7:22:35 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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The author says: It’s is impossible to turn the above time indicators into an “any-moment rapture” or prolonged periods of prophetic history.

But he does not say what it does mean.

He also gives no clue as to why evangelicals are "dangerous".

3 posted on 05/23/2011 7:25:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: topcat54
The great big shame in all of this is that the media and all the libtards out there just love to trash Christianity and love to hold this idiot's stupidity up as evidence that Christianity is stupid and worth the comedic satire.

The stand-ups will be feasting on this anti-Christian feed-bag for months and months.

4 posted on 05/23/2011 7:27:11 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: topcat54

I don’t blame an obviously demented 89 year old for delusions of godhood and bizarre proclamations. I can hear those from any homeless guy on a park bench, or from an Alzheimers patient who insists his parents are still alive and it’s WW2.
What I blame is the media that gives this kind of ranting a forum!
First- nobody knows( and not everyone on the planet believes) in the return of Jesus. You are free to guess every year and, eventually , someone will be right; but giving every guess or delusion press is criminal.
Second- in our current media climate- if Jesus returned during football season, He would be ignored or maybe mentioned as a postscript after post-game shows.


5 posted on 05/23/2011 7:29:15 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: laweeks

Thank you! THAT is the reason all this made the press, IMO.
We should all remember, also, that the world ‘ends’ for tons of people every day. Check the obituaries.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 7:31:25 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: topcat54

What about Globull Warming predictions?


7 posted on 05/23/2011 7:32:04 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: ClearBlueSky
That's exactly right. The key idea is to get right with Jesus because the day of judgment will come without warning. Surely it comes for each of us at some time, so don't put things off, repent and live as a good Christian.

Emphasizing the inevitability of judgment is not a mistake. But picking a specific day is a fool's errand.

8 posted on 05/23/2011 7:35:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: topcat54

Matthew 24
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Zecharia 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

There are many, many more such prophetic passages which have yet to be fulfilled.

When? In the words of Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:36 ...

“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

Attempts to predict these things are not only futile, but reject the authority of God Himself who made it clear through His Son that nobody would know.


9 posted on 05/23/2011 7:38:19 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: BenLurkin

DeMar has written several very interesting articles and books on eschatology. If you go to abebooks.com you can get a copy of one of the books for very little.


10 posted on 05/23/2011 7:38:26 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: topcat54

As Christians it is our job to spread the good news of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus to anyone who will listen.
It is not to create FUD.

I can’t really imagine why any Christian would want to be “raptured”. When the world is at its worst, who else will stand and proclaim Jesus, to those who still live, if not us?


11 posted on 05/23/2011 7:39:02 AM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: topcat54

Christ said he would return. He never said He was going to “rapture out Believers.” That is a dangerous false doctrine that has only been around for about 130 years.

People like LaHaye should be ashamed for spreading these falsehoods and making piles of money from it.


12 posted on 05/23/2011 7:40:08 AM PDT by AnnGora (For a copy of this tagline, send 19.99 to Copy of Tagline, Pueblo, CO...)
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To: topcat54

You may remember the folk remedy for a bad LSD trip — take another dose, of 10 times the potency.


13 posted on 05/23/2011 7:41:13 AM PDT by it_rr (kervan yürür)
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To: topcat54

Gary DeMar must be a bitter and small minded man if he feels the need to ceaselessly harp on this topic. DeMar has his own bizarre interpretation of the end times that is perhaps even more out of step than Harold Camping.

As for Harold Camping, we shouldn’t be surprised that the adversary would push him and other to unbiblical extremes - for the very purpose of smearing the truth with a “guilt by association” argument. In the 1st century, Paul’s gospel of grace was mimicked as “sin as you please”.


14 posted on 05/23/2011 7:43:11 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: topcat54

Here’s a little common sense (at least to me) about God speaking to and through people in general, and God does do both.

When God speaks to you, that message is for you, and you alone. It is essentially meaningless to others, however deeply felt it may be to you.

When God speaks through you, the more you think about it, (or add mixed case, mixed font blinking highlights to it), or repeat it, ...the less of the real message gets through.

Just my .02 FWIW


15 posted on 05/23/2011 7:51:35 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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"The end of the world" is going to come for each of us, sooner or later. For most of us, it will probably be before the Second Coming. Our own personal "end of the world is the one to prepare for. If you're ready for that, you'll be ready for the Second Coming, in case that happens while you're still around.

Jesus's message, "repent and reform," applies regardless of when the Second Coming takes place.

16 posted on 05/23/2011 8:10:45 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: topcat54

These guys are only dangerous if they have an audience. I think those who believed it was the end of the world were only wishful thinkers.


17 posted on 05/23/2011 8:16:15 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ClearBlueSky

please think about your conclusion. Does the world end when
someone dies, or does someone die to the world? Is reality
external(apart, different) from us, or based only on our internal mind?


18 posted on 05/23/2011 8:32:20 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: AnnGora

What kind of Bible do you read that has 1 Thessalonians 4:17 omitted?


19 posted on 05/23/2011 9:14:34 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: topcat54

Sola Scriptura is what I say it is fails.


20 posted on 05/23/2011 9:19:14 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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