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Freemason Persecution of Catholics in Mexico [Catholic Caucus]
Various | July 7, 2011 | Various

Posted on 07/08/2011 7:56:10 PM PDT by topher

Source URL's used/referenced:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutarco_El%C3%ADas_Calles -- In particular, the heading Cristero War: Anticlerical [Anti-Catholic] legislation enactment

http://milujciesie.org.pl/nr/catholic_church/painted_by_a_heavenly.html -- Painted by a Heavenly Hand

In the 1920s and 1930s, the infamous Calles Persecution occurred in Mexico. During this time, Freemasons tried to bomb the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe. The bomb did go off, but not even the glass was cracked, which was not bullet proof and very thin [supernatural protection, apparently]. A 5 foot brass cross on the altar was not as fortunate. The tremendous force of the blast caused the cross to be curved.

Many Roman Catholic priests were martyred during the Calles Persecution, including Blessed Miguel Pro.

In the book Mexican Martyrs, written by a Jesuit, there is the story that after one Mexican official executed a Catholic priest, he ate part of the Catholic priest for dinner. Such was the barbaric nature of the persecution of the Catholic Church by Freemasons in the 1920's and 1930's in Mexico.

From: Painted by a Heavenly Hand:

Testifying equally powerfully to the image’s supernatural origins is its miraculous preservation in the face of numerous unfortunate circumstances and events throughout its centuries-old history. In 1791, while cleaning the image’s silver frame, a worker accidentally spilled an entire bottle of nitric acid over the image. To his great surprise and enormous relief the acid did not leave the slightest trace. In the 1920s, during the bloody persecutions of the Church under Plutarco Calles, thousands of priests were condemned to death merely for carrying out their priestly duties. The atheist Masonic regime closed down all the churches in Mexico except for the Basilica in Guadalupe. Nevertheless, the enemies of the Church devised a diabolic plan to destroy the image of Our Lady and kill most of the members of the hierarchy. On 14 November 1921 government agents hid a powerful time bomb in a flower vase under the miraculous image. The bomb exploded at 10:30 in the midst of a Pontifical Mass. The powerful explosion rocked the entire Basilica, destroying the floor, marble altar and stained glass windows. Miraculously no one was killed. A few people suffered minor wounds only. When the dust settled after the explosion, it turned out that the image had emerged untouched. A massive metal crucifix—bent out of shape—had shielded it from the force of the explosion.

However, this description might be inaccurate, as the bomb was between the crucifix and Our Lady of Guadalupe. It was the back of the crucifix that was bent.

The force should have cracked the glass at the least and definitely destroyed the image. Yet the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe remained unscathed.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: calles; cristeros; elizabethstleger; freemason; freemasonry; freemasons; guadalupe; hellfireclubs; mason; masons; stleger
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To: topher
Freemasons here in the United States are very different from those in Italy and other countries (Russia).

You are absolutely correct on this. Again, it's the Continental Masonry vs. English Masonry thing.

Continental Masonry can be virulently anti-Catholic. I personally believe that much of its character was formed by men and women who blamed the Church for their woes in society and saw Masonry as both an escape from that and as a place to find others of a similar mind. I have little doubt that Continental Masonry deserves all the condemnation that the Church gives it and more.

I guess I just wanted to make it clear that we're not all like that. I've been a Mason for 5 years. I belong to the Scottish Rite and hold the 32nd Degree (it's not as huge an accomplishment as it might initially sound). I'm a former Catholic (now Anglican) who still holds the Catholic Church in the highest of regards -- I just want to be sure that friends aren't perceived as enemies and that the right people are condemned.

61 posted on 07/09/2011 6:48:01 AM PDT by MWS (De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum. - Thomas a Kempis)
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To: bronxville
From your reference:

The History of the “only Lady Mason” is one which must interest every member of the Craft, and this interest is very much increased by having a clear statement of the facts.

The simple facts, that Miss St. Leger when a young girl, obtained possession of certain Masonic secrets by concealing herself in or near the Lodge held by her father at Doneraile House, and that in consequence she was made a mason, were known.

It is not and never has been an accepted practice....

62 posted on 07/09/2011 6:56:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Kartographer

We make our Tiler sit an armored one.


63 posted on 07/09/2011 7:11:53 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: bannie
Lenin's grandmother, Anna, would attend Masonic meetings.

I am clearly incorrect on this.

Here is the reference that my faulty memory must have changed:

From page 187 of the book Witness by Josyp Terelya:

Consider some facts: Lenin's mother was named Maria... Anna [mother of Maria, grandmother of Lenin] often went to the meetings of the brotherhood of Masons...

However, in the book In the Kingdom of the Spirit, Josyp Terelya, on page 146, clearly states that Lenin was a mason...

... concluding with the Freemasons - Kerensky, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Fidel Castro ...

It is Josyp Terelya that I rely on for information.

Why?

He was an extraordinary mystic. His own life was saved in such an unusual way that it puzzled the KGB...

64 posted on 07/09/2011 7:26:08 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher
i'll take mu chances and let God decide my fate...
65 posted on 07/09/2011 7:38:36 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Vendome
See reference: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2745912/posts?q=64&;page=64#64

Terelya also claimed that leaders of the Communist Party in the USSR were all Freemasons from the beginning...

66 posted on 07/09/2011 7:40:01 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

You may not enter a tiled lodge unless you are a Mason and you can forget about anyone entering if it called in the 3rd degree, except for Master Masons.


67 posted on 07/09/2011 8:11:29 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: topher

I’ll try to research this next week. I am the Secretary of my lodge and have access to resources that may give better answers.

Ping me later if I don’t ping you 1st. I believe one of our know it all’s probably has an answer on this.


68 posted on 07/09/2011 8:13:44 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Texas Fossil

WTH is with all these “know it alls”?

They rely on a single recitation as a matter or statement of fact?

LOL

and lame.


69 posted on 07/09/2011 8:19:26 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: MWS; Cvengr

+1

Good explanation


70 posted on 07/09/2011 8:25:01 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Vendome

They have been “programmed” to believe only what they are told. Never question “authority”.

I know they never convince anyone on this forum to agree with them, unless they already are of that mindset. So, I suspect the only purpose they serve here is to divide us in the effort of opposing the Lefties who want to enslave us.

They are continually posting obscure authors with screeds against everyone who is not Catholic. Some among them defend Monarchies openly, a concept that I thought went away over 100 years ago.

It is a shame and a total waste of time.


71 posted on 07/09/2011 8:27:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: bronxville; Texas Fossil

It is a malpractice for it to have occurred and against Free Masonry by laws of any lodge laws and by laws.

Further, she was initiated before the age of majority. Big no, no.

I do not recognize her as a Mason as her entire experience was born of fraud and further revelation of arts, parts, etc.

Her family did this in direct violation of any recognized lodge and probably no lodge, in her day, would have allowed her to even darken a door step.

No matter if she could recite anything “She is not part of the Brotherhood”.

That story for proof is a serious misunderstanding of Masonry and is the same as Elvis attaining the degree of black belt in Karate.


72 posted on 07/09/2011 8:50:03 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: topher; bannie

Seriously Topher:
Are you making this up as go?

Rainbow Girls are merely a service organization?

LOL

Sure, and Eastern Star is merely a service organization.


73 posted on 07/09/2011 9:05:53 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Vendome

agreed.

Only posted that in response to the accusation that it is an accepted practice.

I excerpted the previous link to show that it was not then or now an accepted thing.

This whole line of discussion is absolute nonsense.

I think those who post this type of dribble only do it to excite discussion. If they choose their normal topic of discussion everyone avoids it. So they resort to stirring the pot.


74 posted on 07/09/2011 9:12:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

LOL

I was agreeing with you and discounting Bronxville’s assertion.

People like this and Topher like to cite anomalous incidents, dubious sources and total outright fruads and claim them as facts or proof a concept exists.

(hmmm...that didn’t come out well. Oh well...)

Wait!......Are we a secret organization with secrets? /s


75 posted on 07/09/2011 9:21:37 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: patton

I wish I hadn’t left this discussion last night. :(


76 posted on 07/09/2011 9:51:10 AM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: MWS

I had no idea about the two different groups. That’s a lesson for me. Thank you. I come here to learn! :-)


77 posted on 07/09/2011 9:53:49 AM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: bronxville; MWS

Look to MWS’ post 16. I had no idea that there were two unrelated groups who claim the name of “Masons.”

Here’s a question: Are both called “Free & Accepted Masons” (F&AM)?


78 posted on 07/09/2011 9:57:52 AM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: esoxmagnum

...and Knights Templar


79 posted on 07/09/2011 10:02:23 AM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: bannie
As far as I know, usually Continental Masons are known as "The Grand Orient". My knowledge of them is admittedly limited, apart from the fact that they are not considered "Regular" and thus do not have communications between each other.

In order to be Regular, a lodge has to hold to the 25 Landmarks, which are the cornerstone of Masonry. Those can be found here -- The 25 Landmarks of Freemasonry.

As far as I am aware, Grand Orient lodges do not recognize the 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, and 25th landmarks. If a member of the Grand Orient were to visit an AF&AM Lodge, he ought rightfully be barred entrance by the tyler (the guy we keep outside the door armed with a sword).

80 posted on 07/09/2011 10:08:33 AM PDT by MWS (De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum. - Thomas a Kempis)
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