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To: marshmallow

This type of thing, Catholics, makes protestants and evangelicals loose respect for your tradition.

To offer this unrepentant murderer and socialist the blessings of your church is sickening.

But the Catholic church never seems to be able to say no to those in power.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 1:05:39 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

So you withhold the eucharist from all comers? Please.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 1:10:52 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Salvation is not in the Eucharist. It’s in knowing Jesus Christ as a personal savior and asking for forgiveness of your sins. If he hasn’t don’t that, he can take the Eucharist all day long and it won’t save his soul from hell.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 1:20:12 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: PetroniusMaximus
makes protestants and evangelicals loose respect for your tradition.

You can't lose what you don't have.

And power has nothing to do with it. Priests rarely say "no" to anyone who claims to be repentant and asks for the sacrament.

14 posted on 07/15/2011 1:32:20 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
...this unrepentant murderer and socialist...

You know he's unrepentant how? Or are you just wishing that he is?

15 posted on 07/15/2011 1:34:31 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: PetroniusMaximus

***To offer this unrepentant murderer and socialist the blessings of your church is sickening.***

The Blessing of the Sick is to help the soul of the person who receives it. It contains a Confession, and like all Confessions it is only valid if the penitent confesses all mortal sins and, most importantly, truly and completely regrets any offense to God.

Even if you and I think that Chavez is unrepentent, we are only mortals,as is the priest. God is the final justice. The priest merely represents him, but God makes the final decision. And you can’t fool God.


21 posted on 07/15/2011 1:37:17 PM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Even those in power need grace, in fact, those in power need the most grace for conversion and sanctification. Because they are the ones who are responsible for every sin committed in their administration.

I don’t get your point, you ask why? I ask you, why not?

Because he is evil?

Every sacrament is an encounter with Jesus who alone transforms sinners into saints.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if bad man Hugo had a conversion of heart?


22 posted on 07/15/2011 1:38:01 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: PetroniusMaximus

When Teddy the Swimmer croaked, someone here said that the end-of-life ceremony was going to bail Ted out from a life of fighting against God.

See Ephesians 2:8-9!!!

Good post, by the way.


29 posted on 07/15/2011 2:00:05 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Offering Chavez the Sacrament of Holy Confession would be most appropriate!!!!

Of course, one has to WANT to repent and receive this Sacrament!!!!


32 posted on 07/15/2011 2:05:16 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

You wrote:

“But the Catholic church never seems to be able to say no to those in power.”

The Catholic Church doesn’t say no to sinners seeking God.


33 posted on 07/15/2011 2:08:35 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Sweden - one of the next Muslim countries)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

i understand your concern about his un-repetance.

But do we really know?

We cannot judge because God is the final judge. Obviously Chavez will have a lot to account for, but in his soul, we do now know if he is truly repentant or not.


54 posted on 07/16/2011 10:45:56 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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