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1 posted on 08/27/2011 1:21:56 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/27/2011 1:22:46 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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3 posted on 08/27/2011 1:23:48 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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This is an urban legend. First Things reported shortly after the event that the priest was NOT gay. But the homosexual lobby has to have a hero so they made one up. Disgraceful and tawdry they would smear this good man just to have a squalid trophy martyr of their own.
4 posted on 08/27/2011 1:25:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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There’s one thing they’re ignoring here .... being homosexual and committing acts of homosexuality are two different things.

Now, if this priest committed such acts, he’s guilty. If not, then he set the example for gays to follow ... celibacy.


5 posted on 08/27/2011 1:25:28 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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hmmm...I had read that people who actually knew him said that he wasn’t gay, or at least no one knew because all indications were that he led a chaste life.


7 posted on 08/27/2011 1:32:56 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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yes, follow his example: be celibate, go to confession, do something for someone else, get hit by a falling body.
10 posted on 08/27/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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Fallen 9/11 priest emerges as an icon for gay Catholics (Catholic Caucus)

Emerges? I thought it would have been more appropriate like this:

Fallen 9/11 priest comes out as an icon for gay Catholics (Catholic Caucus)
14 posted on 08/27/2011 2:50:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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The body belonged to the Rev. Mychal Judge, a Franciscan fire chaplain who rushed to the burning buildings and was killed by falling debris.

And yet no religious involvement with the 10th anniversary celebration. And no first responders.

He embodied both.

15 posted on 08/27/2011 2:53:06 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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How I will always remember Fr. Mychal Judge:


16 posted on 08/27/2011 2:57:35 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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Placemark - turning comp off due to big thunderstorm heading my way, hearing thunder now.


17 posted on 08/27/2011 3:25:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Lies.

Fr. Judge was not "gay" as that implies living the lifestyle. If he struggled with same-sex attraction, that's nobody's business but his so long as he didn't act on it.
18 posted on 08/27/2011 3:51:20 PM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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A 9/11 Hijacking: How 'Gay' Activists Smeared Father Mychal Judge
19 posted on 08/27/2011 4:07:39 PM PDT by gubamyster
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I found many of the comments in that magazine disturbing, to say the least. One poster threw out the weird assertion that half the priests in the US are homosexuals. Others were not as ridiculous, yet their arguments were far from what I would expect from Catholics, even nominal Catholics.

Arguments similar to what might come from atheists, or liberals committed to dragging the church into the umbrella of leftism, subverting it totally to another cause.


20 posted on 08/27/2011 5:09:10 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Wonder if the church will also want close the chasm between adulterers and faithful, or incestuous and normal too?


21 posted on 08/27/2011 5:17:40 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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If you tell a lie long enough.....Isn’t it interesting that there was not a peep or whisper of homosexuality until the poor man was dead? Gay men leave trails. Where are the lovers? Where are the witnesses who saw him in the clubs? Where are the family members who say oh yeah he was gay? Where is the parishioners who say they saw young men hanging around at all hours of the night? Where is the housekeeper who changed the sheets? Where? They don’t exist. The poor man’s memory is being used.


24 posted on 08/28/2011 7:49:28 AM PDT by stellaluna
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Researchers estimate that thousands of gay priests like Judge serve the church while remaining faithful to their vows of celibacy. Only a few, however, have publicly revealed their sexual orientation, leaving a dearth of positive role models for gay Catholics, Daley said.

Judge was considered a saint by many who knew him but if he was a saint it was because he struggled against temptation with the help of God's grace. Many gays do the same, and will probably make it into heaven before the homophobes

That said, the problem here is that those seeking to legalize promiscuity (homo and hetero) in the Catholic church are using him to promote the gay lifestyle.

And that is a problem.

In Catholic piety, we can pray to anyone in heaven to intercede with us to God, including our friends and relatives. So if you want to pray to Judge, go ahead.

Being declared a saint is a bit more difficult, since it requires an examination of their life and writings, a lapse of time to eliminate over enthusiatic followers, and a couple of miracles though their intercession for God's okay in the matter.

Lots of "heroes" who the libs want to make saints (e.g. Kennedy and Martin Luther King) were promiscuous to the end of their lives, and would never pass the test of sanctity.

So I think that the magazine is mixing up fame with sanctity.

28 posted on 08/28/2011 4:41:57 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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Who cares what sexual orientation he was? He was a brave, selfless man regardless.


29 posted on 08/31/2011 6:31:11 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Yesterday Argentina, Today Greece, Tomorrow America)
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