[MHGinTN]

There is an uncomplicated answer, if you're ready to consider it:

The body sleeps and will be resurrected; the soul and spirit are alive forever more, with many destined for separation from God's presence by refusal of His deliverance. The soul and spirit are already timeless in the sense that those aspects of our being do not die with bodily dissolution. The reality of the body 'sleeps', but will be re-created in the Last resurrection.

[CynicalBear]

I may have misunderstood the posting I was replying to. I thought you were saying that the soul also sleeps. I’m having a conversation with Elsie who seems to imply that the soul sleeps and is not with God when we die.

[Elsie]

The body sleeps and will be resurrected; the soul and spirit are alive forever more, with many destined for separation from God's presence by refusal of His deliverance. The soul and spirit are already timeless in the sense that those aspects of our being do not die with bodily dissolution. The reality of the body 'sleeps', but will be re-created in the Last resurrection.

"I have come down from heaven--not to do my will, but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day." John 6:38-39

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Raised them UP from WHAT?