[Elsie]

I’m having a conversation with Elsie who seems to imply that the soul sleeps and is not with God when we die.

1 Samuel 28:15

And Samuel said to Saul: 'Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up?'

AWAKENED?

[CynicalBear]

>>Is this not a PARABLE?<<

Parables do not use real people. This was a real happening being described. >>Even BEFORE the 'final' judgement?,<

Obviously.

>>And Samuel said to Saul: 'Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up?'<<

disquieted, bothered, interrupted. To bring me up – to bring me back to the land of the living.

Remember that Jesus had not died on the cross at the point of the story. Abraham, Lazarus and those in that place were taken from there to heaven when Christ spent three days there setting them free. That’s the place Catholics get their concept of purgatory. Prior to Christ’s death there was no redemption. Once Christ took those souls to heaven it served no purpose. That “holding place” no longer exists.