Posted on 09/17/2011 10:09:58 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
Oh, where in Scripture is it said that Satan is being held by Michael “behind” Christ?
I have already given you the Scripture, Christ's own Words, and you reject HIM and you demand more?
Well, you need to tell the Popes, catholic.com, newwordencyclopedia and many others of that because they all say it is.
Pope Pius XII solemnly defined in Munificentissimus Deus on Nov. 1, 1950, that the "Immaculate Mother of God, the ever-virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory."
The doctrine of the Assumption says that at the end of her life on earth Mary was assumed, body and soul, into heaven, just as Enoch, Elijah, and perhaps others had been before her. It’s also necessary to keep in mind what the Assumption is not. Some people think Catholics believe Mary "ascended" into heaven. That’s not correct. Christ, by his own power, ascended into heaven. Mary was assumed or taken up into heaven by God. She didn’t do it under her own power.
The Church has never formally defined whether she died or not, and the integrity of the doctrine of the Assumption would not be impaired if she did not in fact die, but the almost universal consensus is that she did die. Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven." [http://www.catholic.com/library/Immaculate_Conception_and_Assum.asp]
Although the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary may somewhat controversially [http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Assumption_of_Mary]
The wasn’t part of any church untill the 5th century. It’s absent in scripture.
“The belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is founded on the apocryphal treatise De Obitu S. Dominae, bearing the name of St. John, which belongs however to the fourth or fifth century. It is also found in the book De Transitu Virginis, falsely ascribed to St. Melito of Sardis, and in a spurious letter attributed to St. Denis the Areopagite” (Catholic Encyclopaedia).
The first church author to speak on the assumption, Gregory of Tours, based his teaching on the Transitus, perhaps because he accepted it as genuine. However, in 459 A.D. Pope Gelasius issued a decree that officially condemned and rejected the Transitus along with several other heretical writings. Pope Hormisdas reaffirmed this decree in the sixth century. It is ironic that this heretical teaching was later promoted within the Catholic Church, until eventually it was proclaimed a dogma in the twentieth century.
Looks like you really need to believe also or be considered “fallen away”.
The Roman Church solemnly warns anyone who “should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which we have defined (i.e. the Assumption), let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith (Munificentissimus Deus).
The apostates are the ones who have invented this doctrine. The faithful are those who, together with the early Christians, have remained steadfast in upholding the faith of the New Testament.
I think you Catholics had better do some intense study of what your Catholic Church used to be and how far they have fallen away. Notice how the whold concept was based on writings that were origianlly declared haresy.
Since Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, "Get thee behind Me, Satan: for it is written, 'Thou shalt worship the LORD thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.'"
Since that command Satan has been held 'behind' Christ, now where is Christ now?
Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angles fought against the dragon (devil): and the dragon fought and his angels, (what Satan has a 'crew'.),
8 And prevailed NOT, neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, call the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
We are going to have 'visitors', and they are NOT pleasant visitors they are pretenders.
There's more...Don't call any man father, and, Whatever else you do, don't let a grown man wear red shoes, comes to mind...
At least have the courage to admit that you don't believe the Bible and think that you are qualified to state that some Scriptures are true and some are not.
You posted nothing to validate your false doctrines and the Scripture doesn't exist to validate your false doctrines.
You are living, breathing proof that Jesus is coming soon for His bride and proof of the truth of this article.
Sorry, that's not scripture...That's your Catholic catechism...
Ok I read this two times and gained NOTHING. Yes, Jesus is coming, but HE does NOT come first. Now you can believe the apostasy because as Paul continues to write in IIThessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming IS after the working of Satan with all power and sign and lying wonders, (the apostasy)
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
I let you read verse 12 because it speaks of a 'wedding out of season' which is the apostasy.
As much as you fling empty accusations I am NOT going to wish you happy wedding bells because YOU are not going to be a happy bride.
Since the book of Revelation is the book that gives the events which will happen during the Tribulation, why don't you post the verses in Revelation that tell what happens with the Church?
And I'm not talking about the Tribulation saints- those who come to Christ during the Tribulation. I'm talking about the people who were saved during this present Age of Grace. I'll need the Scripture from Revelation that talks about the Church, not the Tribulation saints.
Let's see the Scripture from Revelation between chapter 4 and chapter 20 when God talks about the Church coming back to earth with Christ.
Let's see the Scripture.
Actually there is more scriptural back up for the rapture than for a sinless Mary 'assumed" into heaven and now her Sons chief advisor and co redeemer .
Personally I am 'pan millennial " ( it will all pan out in the end)
But I can defend the rapture, from scripture better than you can Maryology
He is "the Prince of the Powers of the Air". Eph. 2:2.
He is "the god of this World" (Age). 2 Cor. 4:4.
He still has his abode in the "Heavenlies" and has access to God. He accuses the brethren day and night.
He is by NO means bound at this time.
“There isn’t going to be any rapture.”
That is your Opinion. It’s not reflective of the Word of God.
Was there a Flood?
Prophecy is about 25% of the Bible.
Every time a preterist “avoids prophecy”, they’re tearing pages from their Bibles!
The rapture is supported in at least three BIBLE passages. Mary herself proclaimed that God was her Savior....
...talk about inventing doctrine out of thin air ....
But theres good news too...
Mary was one of the women praying in the Upper Room at Pentecost when the Holy Spirit shown up like a mighty rushing wind and baptised all of the 120 of the men and women there with the fire and power of the Spirit and they all started to speak in tongues....
The 11 disciples were there
Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James.
Mary, the mother of Jesus, Mary Magdalaine, Salome the mother of John and James, the other Mary and so on...
Mary, Martha and Lazarus...
Peters wife and mother-in-law...
plus the brothers of Jesus,
and a few others
So Mary was filled with the Spirit and speaking in tongues with the rest...
Wow, I really missed the boat; I had shrimp for supper. And at a Catholic establishment, no less!
Hint: Catholics aren't "under the law" at all, if by "under the law" you mean what Paul meant by the phrase.
No, it isn't. De Transitu is only one source that speaks of the Assumption, and it wasn't "declared haresy" because of its teaching of the Assumption, but for other reasons.
I fail to see why you would find the Assumption such an intolerable doctrine, though. We think Mary was raptured on the early flight. So what?
Better take a look at the list of what the Catholic Church demands of you.
Find me another prior to the 5th century.
>>I fail to see why you would find the Assumption such an intolerable doctrine, though.<<
Well, let’s look at a few reasons.
Scripture says.
Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
But Catholics say.
"Membership in the Militia means complete dedication to the Kingdom of God and to the salvation of souls through Mary Immaculate." -Pope John Paul II
"We have an advocate in Mary that the father, Son, and Holy Spirit cannot say no to. It is impossible for them to say no to her! -Fr. Stephan Scheier
Jesus says Christians belong to Him.
Romans 1:6 among whom are ye also called to be Jesus Christ's:
But Catholics say.
Pope John Paull II has 'dedicated himself and his Pontificate to Our Lady.' He bears the letter "M" for Mary in his coat of arms. And his personal motto, which is embroidered on the side of his robes in Latin is the following: "TOTUS TUUS SUM MARIA", which in English translates to: "MARY, I'M ALL YOURS."
Jesus says He is the way and no one comes to the Father but by Him.
"John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Acts 4:10-12 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. [11] This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. [12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
But Catholics say.
"Oh Lady, you are the refuge of all the abandoned; behold me here and now abandoned by all. You are my only hope. You alone are my only hope; you alone can help me; have pity on me." [Taken from the Glories of Mary. Chapter 7, Page 132. By St. Alphonsus Liguori. He was declared "Venerable", 4 May, 1796; was beatified in 1816, and canonized in 1839. In 1871, he was declared a Doctor of the Church.] Catholics claim her blessed holy mother.
But Jesus says.
"But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it." (Luke 11:28)
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