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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Study what happens after the millenial reign, when Satan is loosed”for a season”. Even after Christ has ruled for 1000 years upon the Earth multitudes will still rise up against Christ and the Holy city and against his saints. 10 centuries of blessings and teachings but many will still harbor hardened hearts at the end of that time.

Now I get the difference between a “spiritual Israel”, that includes all of the redeemed of Christ, living and dead, from every tribe and tongue from Adam all the way up to some present day little girl who goes up to the altar at some “Salt and Light” community church because she wants to be saved and know Jesus, and physical Israel. The Bible talks about both existing in present as well as future times, with Christ the King ruling bodily on this Earth from Jerusalem, centered in present day Israel.


35 posted on 10/09/2011 6:25:16 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: mdmathis6

Satan was bound at the cross. Jesus said the strong man must first be bound and then his house may be plundered. since Satan has been bound, the Church by the power of the Holy Spirit has been plundering his house for 2,000 years.
the Scriptures do tell us right before Jesus returns and the world ends, that Satan will be loosed for a time and there will be a great falling away, evil will abound and there will be great tribulation for the believers. i believe we are in that time period today. Jesus wondered when He returned would He find Faith on the earth and we are seeing His words played out before us daily as heresy and sin multiply.


38 posted on 10/09/2011 6:36:49 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: mdmathis6; one Lord one faith one baptism
Study what happens after the millenial reign, when Satan is loosed”for a season”.

Before we assume the absurd, perhaps you can explain "deceive the nations" (Rev 20:3) particularly the "Gog and Magog"(v8) part when you say that "Christ is ruling". Ruling what exactly? It seems that there are all kinds of nations running about autonomously. Is Christ really that lousy a world dictator?

Then we have this "fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them"(v9) So where is God? A side-show in the Temple or "in heaven"?

And I'm not really sure how you work your time-line unless you categorically reject 2 Peter 3 -but the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with a fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up."

The fire from heaven in Rev 20-21 is the same fire in 2 Peter 3. You gratuitously insert between "will come as a thief in the night" and "melt with a fervent heat" a "rapture", a "tribulation" and a "thousand years" of dysfunctional and inept rule by the Creator who made ALL things by speaking it into existence. Your scheme is wildly insane and outright blasphemous.

All of this is perfectly consistent with the "Realized Millennial" view, even Post Mills can demonstrate coherency in the Scriptures with their time line. You have to either reject inconvenient portions of Scripture or you will never be able to harmonize your apocalyptic Dystopia with a failed Christ with what was revealed to the Apostles.

137 posted on 10/09/2011 7:18:13 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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