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To: BlueDragon

You wrote:

“Why did the former freeper BChan have his own breakdown?”

How would that be relevant?

“Should we blame his Catholicism?”

Are we blaming Lea’s non-Catholicism? Care to throw in anymore irrelevant ideas that don’t even have anything to do with Lea?

“Or maybe it was just the style, flavor (and spirit) of a certain subset of it, found here frequently on FR religion forum pages that helped push him to the brink?”

And that has what to do with Lea?

“The stubborn, stiff-necked and proud, will continue on... knowing all the words, yet not having the knowledge of the precepts convert them, much as the Jewish religious authorities of Jesus’s day, thought they knew it all -— for was not it God whom had in previous centuries, put them in charge of such matters?”

Sounds like Lea’s WASPish sense of authority.

“Embroidered phylacteries saved no one in Christ’s day (on earth), nor was He impressed by them or their wearers.”

Again, what’s any of that got to do with Lea? Are you even capable of discussing Lea?

“They could recite the writings, word for word. Nobody knew it like they did. What happened to them, but they had those temples of theirs overthrown, cast down, stone by stone?”

Again, are you even capable of discussing Lea?

“To this day, He dwells not in temples made of hands.”

Did He dwell in Lea? How would you know?

“Read that back into history?”

Yes.

“For more than a few, it WAS back in Medieval times, when the Catholic Church in Europe, in conjunction with kings, was indeed a threat to not only liberty, but at times one’s very life.”

No. Not in a world that was Catholic nor to a people that was faithfully Catholic. What I said is exactly the same belief held by the official HC Lea librarian, Dr. Edward Peters. I said nothing strange or bizarre. The fact that you probably know nothing about it - that the greatest living expert on Lea said the exact same thing - only proves my point that Protestants routinely know little about history.

“If burning people at the stake, alive, (as in the case of John Huss) is not an abuse of Christ-given authority, what is?”

So the death penalty is a violation of Christ given authority?

“With “history” like that to defend, it’s no wonder you’re trying to sell to us the meme that “Protestants are ignorant of history”, while you feverishly attempt to whitewash the same.”

I whitewash nothing. What I do is simply tell the truth. You probably have no knowledge of what that is.

“Longing for the good ‘ol days, are you? When your church could, under authority it had granted to itself, kill it’s critics?”

The Church never killed anyone. It never had, nor wanted, authority to do so. See, when you actually know history you don’t make mistakes like the one you just did.


28 posted on 10/12/2011 2:15:12 AM PDT by vladimir998 (To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant (or ignorant).)
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To: vladimir998; BlueDragon

Very well said. BlueDragon, specifically speaking, the Church has only one job, one plan for the authority given to it by it’s head, Jesus Christ: to save souls, so that they might live with Him for eternity.


29 posted on 10/12/2011 3:35:36 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est)
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To: vladimir998

The Pharisees didn't actually kill Jesus, either. Isn't that right? Isn't that what the "historical record" actually shows, since it was the Romans who did it?

31 posted on 10/12/2011 9:56:41 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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