Posted on 10/19/2011 5:21:41 PM PDT by wmfights
Hearing Mitt Romney’s surrogate Bill Bennett refer to me as a bigot and Jon Huntsman call me a “moron” last week after my controversial comments on Mormonism, amid calls for civility and tolerance in public discourse, reminds me of the exclamation: “We will not tolerate intolerance!” But beyond the personal insults, I am concerned that these men are attempting to prematurely marginalize religion as a relevant topic in elections. Utilizing such incendiary rhetoric against those of us who dare bring up a candidate’s spiritual beliefs cuts off discussion about religion before it begins.
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What someone professes is utterly useless in judging that person; their actions are the only measure.
The only belief(s) I'd automatically shun are islam and dogmatic socialism.
Unfortunately, both of those, and some downright nasty individual 'Christians' cloak themselves in pleasant sounding generalities.
I've dealt with Mormons as well as people of most other beliefs; It's how one deals with others rather than what one may believe in or pay lip service to that matters.
Also interesting is a closer look at their College and how they grum promising students for positions of influence both here and internationally....Their worldwide operations academically would make any other corporation jealous...as would their holdings.
People need to try and stop seeing LDS/Mormons as a religion...and investigate it as they would a corporation. Same with the Ismali group Perry is so fond of.
Both Mormons and the Ismali’s are heavy on the globalist agenda and uniting the world economically....Ismali’s are big on spreading the wealth around....
Here's a quote from their Agu Khan Leader, so highly esteemed by the Globalist leaders:
“Together, we can help reshape the very definition of a well educated ‘global citizen’. And we can begin that process by bridging the learning gap which lies at the heart of what some have called a Clash of Civilizations, but which I have always felt was rather a Clash of Ignorance's.
As the IB ‘moves beyond the Judeo-Christian cultures’ where it is most experienced, it will have to make educators in other areas of the world into its newest stakeholders. This will probably mean developing more explicit expressions of a cosmopolitan ethic, founded if possible ‘in universal human values’. That may well be ‘a progressive’, ever evolving process.
Well,I never cared much about any politicians religion... then came Barack Hussein Obama.... and I began to realize that this (religion) was the basis for a man’s decisions, and therefore should be considered.
I agree completely. I also would rule out a Muslim ( sudden jihad syndrome) and dogmatic socialism ( Obama is a case in point), both are a threat to our nation.
Ronald Reagan struck me as a man connected to divine providence. I do not believe we have had a president since then who was.
Its humble gentle humor is actually easy to spot, and no need to make a big deal out of it.I don’t detect it in any of our current field, not to say its not there, but if it is, they hide it well. Talking about religion is no substitute for manifestation and never will be.
Obama certainly has no evidence of devine providence about him, he is too much a narcist, a very poor president he has made.
That would of course depend on if or not they had an agenda for our country which flies in the face of our constitution..as it is... and not how they intend to change that to fit the mold of their ideology.
People should look closer at organizations calling themselves religions...whose in power, what are their holdings, what exactly is their political agenda if there is one and finding that out as you would any group bent on an ideology......Scientology comes to mind who do have an agenda....as do mormons and others...some more powerful than others for the revenues they take in, and some with leadership who have definite ideas of where they intend to take this nation.
Remember it was not until this nation was attacked that our government began to look seriously at groups and organizations who were funding the ISlamic agenda...it is the same with others who have their agendas...funding comes from many sources and fronts...and more times than not masquarading as something other than what it is.
Seek YHvH in His WORD. You accuse me of lying but cite no facts.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
That way they avoid ever being accused of being a theocrat.
That doesn't work anymore. Everybody knows what the lowest common denominator is ~ they're out there fornicating in grubby little tents on Wall Street
These guys have to break out of that old "can't teach you 'bout my God" stuff or they will lose.
Romney has been practicing the stance so long I doubt he can. Kennedy sure never overcame it ~ of course he was a murderer, but I think you see the point.
It would appear to me that your commitment to politics is stronger than your commitment to Christ.
Thou shalt not.
You seem reasonable and persuasive until you claim the sleazy J.R. Perry as your candidate for President!
It would appear to me that your commitment to politics is stronger than your commitment to Christ.
I use YHvH's commandments to evaluate
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
a politicians suitability for leadership. "Do not judge according to appearance,
but judge with righteous judgment."
I wish Rick Santorum were a viable candidate considering he is a good Catholic.
Of course this is right. I don’t share Mr. Jeffress’ opinion of the Catholic Church, and it is distressing that a supposed Catholic intellectual could be so oblivious to the radical differences between the Church of Latter Day Saints and Catholic doctrine, which are even greater(although Mr.Jeffress would not agree on this). than those between the Mormons and Southern Baptists. The Mormons are not friends to Catholics, athough they are quite peaceable American citizens, and our allies==to a degree—in the cultural wars. But good fences make good neighbors.
You are a hypocrite, You are NOT judging righteous judgment, your judgment is unjust and by claiming to be "righteous" you are exposing yourself as one who has a mote in your eye.
Perry did not steal anyone's tax money and give it to "criminals". He signed into law a law which was voted in almost unanimously by the elected representatives of the state of Texas.
The law that he signed is actually a good example of Christian Charity as it allows students who are in America through no fault of their own and who graduate from Texas High Schools to be given the same tuition rates as all other students who graduate from Texas High Schools.
For you to accuse Perry of stealing and being in open rebellion against Christ because he treats these children as human beings is the height of hypocrisy.
You need to repent as you have falsely accused your brother (Perry) of theft and your attitude is clearly in violation of God's commandment to love your neighbor as yourself.
If anything, YOU are the one who is in rebellion towards YHvH!
It is time to grow up. Read Psalm ONE, start there. You will learn that the man who is blessed is the one who delights in the Torah. Study it, and live it, just like the Nazarene...I guarantee you’ll be blessed.
Yes, let us study the torah and see what it says about aliens living in our country:
Deuteronomy 10:19 New International Version (©1984)
And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egypt.
Exodus 22:21 "Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.
As an aside, I've noticed, "Mormon" has become something of a word that doth not be uttered in the debates.
I look at someone like Ted Kennedy and I can tell he didn't pick up the sanctity of human life from his Catholicism but he sure picked up on the "social justice" movement.
In that sense the label taken on isn't as meaningful as the values reflected.
Obama's decade of attending the church of a racist demagogue hollering things like "God Damn America" from his pulpit is gravely disturbing. It sheds considerable light on how he speaks down to the American people and treats his job. It has nothing to do with his proclaimed Christian faith but saying he'd never heard such things all those years as a parishioner tells me, again, what we need to know: he's a belittling, divisive, opportunistic liar who will do anything to save his own skin.
I'm often wary of those who make their faith a central theme of their campaign whether it's Huckabee, W, Perry, Bachmann or the sermonizing Bill Clinton back in 1992. I'm not swayed by the rhetoric.
Please detail for me, Uriel, any instance in which Governor Perry illegally, against the law, STOLE taxpayer money.
I have not heard of Perry being charged by any state, local, or federal agency for THEFT.
Apparently, you have heard of such illegal activity and will willingly give us a link to an act on Perry's part that is against codified law and prosecutable as theft.
I had forgotten about this verse, P-Marlowe. The others are insightful, but this Levitical mandate goes all the way to birth rights.
I expect there will be serious disagreement with this interpretation, but I don't see how the literal rendering can be overcome.
You have opened a floodgate.
I must rethink my entire position. I am determined to be a biblical Christian and a follower of YHWH's words.
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