Look, you're both wrong.
Uriel, you're wrong because the Torah does allow--and in fact, commands--the leaders to collect a tithe to assist the Levites, widows, orphans, and foreigners. Therefore, Gov. Perry is not "stealing" in doing the same thing with taxes.
You're also wrong for picking and/or engaging in a fight on the eighth day of Sukkot while judging others on whether they keep the Torah.
Marlowe, you're wrong for calling Uriel a hypocrite just because he's weighing the competing demands of the Torah differently than you. What, the Torah's command to provide love and support for the foreigner is all-encompasing? Should the Israelites have handed over their grain to support the Philistines? Was David a hypocrite for going to war against those illegally moving into Israel's Land while writing psalms of praise for the Torah?
Furthermore, how far back would I have to go to find a post you've written referring to the Democrats "stealing" our taxes to pay for their pet projects? I'm pretty sure every single person on FR has used that rhetoric at one time or another. Should we treat a politician more leniantly just because he has an "R" next to his name?
Seems to me that that would be the very definition of hypocrisy.
This is NOT a black-and-white, cause-the-Bible-says-so issue, and the only way anyone can try to claim otherwise is to yank single verses out of their context to win a point. It is a complicated one on which reasonable people can honestly disagree about what degree of aid, if any, is due the children of a large number of foreigners who have crossed the border illegally.
So how about everyone take a deep breath and start showing each other some charity?
Shalom and Hag Sameach
foreigners foreigner I don't seem to find that.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Please provide the citation.
Gen. 31:15; Jdg. 19:12; 2 Sam. 22:45f; 1 Chr. 22:2; Neh. 9:2; 13:3; Ps. 18:44f; Prov. 20:16; Isa. 2:6; 56:6; 60:10; 61:5; 62:8; Jer. 50:37; 51:2; Ezek. 7:21; 44:7ff; Obad. 1:11
Gen. 31:15; Jdg. 19:12; 2 Sam. 22:45f; 1 Chr. 22:2; Neh. 9:2; 13:3; Ps. 18:44f; Prov. 20:16; Isa. 2:6; 56:6; 60:10; 61:5; 62:8; Jer. 50:37; 51:2; Ezek. 7:21; 44:7ff; Obad. 1:11
He is a hypocrite because he judges Perry with a different standard than he judges everyone else while claiming at the same time that he is judging "righteous judgment". That's BS.
He has on just about every thread I've seen planted this nonsense about Perry being a thief because he signed the Texas Dream Act which was passed almost unanimously by the Texas Legislature and which treats the Children of Illegal aliens in a manner consistent with the requirements of the Torah that he pretends to be so committed to.
Sorry Buggman, I'm not backing down on this. Uriel has shown no Christian compassion for sojourners who have themselves committed no crimes.
This land does not belong to Uriel, it belongs to God. As Christians we are obligated to show not only compassion for sojourners, but to treat them as natives. If the government does not enforce immigration laws, then it is as if there are no laws. It is the government which has been lawless and allowed this situation to grow. It has benefited our politicians who have bought votes from companies that hire illegals and hispanic groups that take advantage of them for political gain.
The Children of illegal aliens who were brought here by their parents are not criminals. They are children who are to be pitied as they are people without a country. They were permitted to remain in the country to live as natives and yet they find themselves in the precarious position of not being legally able to obtain employment or even a drivers' license in the only country they have known.
I would agree with Perry that anyone who would not show compassion for these children has no heart. And anyone who would publicly accuse Perry (a professed Christian) of being a thief because he treated these children in a manner consistent with the whole body of scripture, is, IMHO, NOT A CHRISTIAN.
Sorry, but Uriel's position is not a Christian position. Nor is it a Jewish Position. It is a secular heartless position.
We are commanded to love our neighbors as ourselves. The Commandment coupled with the commandment to love God with all our hearts fulfills all the other laws. If we personally treat sojourners as anything less than we treat native borns or our own selves, then we violate the commandments of Christ.
I am sick and tired of Uriel's twisted nonsense in regard to Perry's position on the Texas Dream Act. Uriel is a hypocrite. There is not getting around that.