Posted on 10/31/2011 6:33:10 PM PDT by Colofornian
From the article: Paredes, the Mormon representative, claimed that Mormons have “never” been permitted to “baptize” the dead beyond their own ancestors? Yet even Lds “presidents” of the church have done that!!! Lds "prophet" Wilford Woodruff baptized 100 different people from John Wesley to all but 3 U.S. presidents and 56 Declaration of Independence signers in the late 19th century.
From the article: Mormons like to frame their temple actions toward the dead – practices such as...
...baptisms,
...ordinations,
...washings and anointings,
...endowments and sealings
-- as proxy means of simply giving dead spirits a “choice” in the afterlife. The problem with this revisionism of Mormon history is this is not the way some earlier Mormon “prophets” framed this temple activity. For example, Wilford Woodruff, the same Mormon “prophet” who began halting Mormon polygamy, claimed past-tense redemption via such baptisms of the dead, saying “I have had some thousands redeemed here.” How does he know they were “redeemed” if they still had to choose? Did the dead communicate with him?
Since you have stated time and time again that you believe that Mormonism is a bunch of hooey, what difference does it make? I don’t get it. You use the word “literal” - what on earth?
How many Mormon threads does this make for you today?
You’re on a roll. Methinks you’re eating too much sugar from the kiddie’s buckets.
When one considers that the "inventor" of their cult was an adulterer, stone reader, embezzler, and major con-man, then I guess they can think that they can be anything.
But any decently informed Christian has nothing but pity for them to be so horribly mislead by the teachings of the LDS.
May Joseph Smith, Jr., rest in peace on the planet Kolob (which he hasn't told us where to find it). And may his 40+ wives rest in peace with him. Maybe if he'd left his magic stones back here in Ohio, we could find the money he embezzled from the citizens in Kirtland . . . they don't talk much about Kirtland.
No, SD - reading comprehension time. Mormons used the word "literal"
(Part of chapter entitled, “How to Become a Savior on Mount Zion: Duty Lesson 12” p. 223 1974-1975 When Thou Art Converted, Strengthen Thy Brethren Study Guide 1974)
How many people on this forum scream and yell that the earth is only 6,000 + or - years old?
They take the Bible as the “literal” truth.
Who put the Bible together? Wasn’t GOD. Was a bunch of MEN sitting around deciding on the most politically expedient expedient.
Sandy there ya go again...
Meknows you iz over the target
Bombs away !!!
Bigheadfred, I wonder if I could tempt you with some Chuck Missler off of YOUTUBE? Look him up and twist your moustache a bit on evolution, time, light, clones, and other subjects...
Once again - vomit!
mormonISM is sick and a blasphemy of the Bible.
'Cause Mormon leaders used that word...but you don't read the Melchizedek study guides that mentioned that...'cause Mormon leaders don't allow women to be part of the 'priesthood' -- unlike the Protestant church that recognizes the "Priesthood of ALL believers" (1 Peter 2:4-9; Rev. 1:6)
What on earth?
Saundra, that's why this series is called The OTHER World -- the demonic world that serves as its source ... and unintended focus...
mormonISM is more than hooey - it the the blasphemy of God Almighty’s Word.
It is not mormon threads it is mormonISM threads.
Why are you so obsessed with Mormonism? Worship how you see fit, and allow others to do the same. There is a great deal of religious bigotry on this site, mostly from those who profess to be Christians.
Godzilla: No, SD - reading comprehension time. Mormons used the word "literal"
After years of reading the hit-and-run style employed by posters like her I believe I may have noticed a trend. <rolleyes>
Telling the truth about Mormonism doesn't seem to be the objective. Obscuring the truth and diverting attention seems to be the objective.
You tell ‘er, Daddy.
SUREly they can do as well as their adored founder and Leader: Joseph Smith!
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
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