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Is the Reformation Over? by R.C. Sproul
Ligonier ^ | Oct. 31, 2011 | RC Sproul

Posted on 11/03/2011 7:39:32 AM PDT by fishtank

Is the Reformation Over?

by R.C. Sproul

Is the Reformation over? There have been several observations rendered on this subject by those I would call “erstwhile evangelicals.” One of them wrote, “Luther was right in the sixteenth century, but the question of justification is not an issue now.” A second self-confessed evangelical made a comment in a press conference I attended that “the sixteenth-century Reformation debate over justification by faith alone was a tempest in a teapot.” Still another noted European theologian has argued in print that the doctrine of justification by faith alone is no longer a significant issue in the church. We are faced with a host of people who are defined as Protestants but who have evidently forgotten altogether what it is they are protesting....

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: catholic; luther; rcsproul; reformation; sproul; trent
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"At the moment the Roman Catholic Church condemned the biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone, she denied the gospel and ceased to be a legitimate church, regardless of all the rest of her affirmations of Christian orthodoxy. To embrace her as an authentic church while she continues to repudiate the biblical doctrine of salvation is a fatal attribution. We’re living in a time where theological conflict is considered politically incorrect, but to declare peace when there is no peace is to betray the heart and soul of the gospel."

1 posted on 11/03/2011 7:39:33 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: Alex Murphy

ping


2 posted on 11/03/2011 7:39:55 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

3 posted on 11/03/2011 7:43:03 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

http://www.ligonier.org/store/luther-and-the-reformation-dvd/


4 posted on 11/03/2011 7:43:14 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Viva La Revolucion!


5 posted on 11/03/2011 7:47:57 AM PDT by rzman21
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To: fishtank

(I John 3:4). Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


6 posted on 11/03/2011 7:58:48 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: fishtank
"At the moment the Roman Catholic Church condemned the biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone, she denied the gospel and ceased to be a legitimate church, regardless of all the rest of her affirmations of Christian orthodoxy. To embrace her as an authentic church while she continues to repudiate the biblical doctrine of salvation is a fatal attribution. We’re living in a time where theological conflict is considered politically incorrect, but to declare peace when there is no peace is to betray the heart and soul of the gospel."

Well said, R.C. Sproul.

7 posted on 11/03/2011 8:02:10 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Alex Murphy; fishtank
AMEN! Now can we quote this without being accused of inciting "hate" speech?

R.C. Sproul: God Bless you.

8 posted on 11/03/2011 8:05:44 AM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: fishtank

I like listening to Sproll, he is intellectually challenging, learn a lot from him. But I also Love
J Vernon McGee


9 posted on 11/03/2011 8:12:16 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: fishtank

He lists the study guide in PDF version on website.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 8:22:17 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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"Now can we quote this without being accused of inciting "hate" speech?"

What constitutes "hate" speech is the collective message in statements that one hates the Catholic Church and why. When the message is hateful it is not necessary to characterize it as hate speech nor effective to deny it.

11 posted on 11/03/2011 8:30:07 AM PDT by Natural Law (Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
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To: Natural Law

Sorta like “I would bury the Statue of Liberty in my yard to sell my house if I lived next to you”? Oh, wait I get what you’re saying..if it concerns the CATHOLIC CHURCH, it is “hate speech”. Everything else is open season?


12 posted on 11/03/2011 8:36:52 AM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: fishtank
the biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone

That would be the "biblical doctrine" rejected in James 2:24?

13 posted on 11/03/2011 8:49:42 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Campion

he biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone
That would be the “biblical doctrine” rejected in James 2:24?

ME: that doesnt worry them, they just reinterpret james to fit the man-made faith alone doctrine.....come on, why do you think that luther tried to toss that book? even he knew...but since they would let him, they had to, and to this day, after to insist on a different interpretation of the plain obvious meaning of that text from James....

so the ‘reformation’ will continue as the next ‘pastor’ will grab his bible and insist his version of whatever vital doctrine is the correct one, despite the ‘pastor’ up the street with his bible saying the exact opposite on the same doctrine, etc, etc, etc, and then they will break off to another little ‘bible only ‘ church, and so it goes....


14 posted on 11/03/2011 8:55:22 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan; Campion

Just curious, of which tribe do you two belong?


15 posted on 11/03/2011 8:59:07 AM PDT by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: Campion

Nonsense. Or, on the day you stand before the Lord, take a list of your ood works and personal works and tell him “James 2:24.” You want to take that chance?


16 posted on 11/03/2011 9:08:19 AM PDT by righttackle44 (. The J-school graduates who did)
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To: smvoice
"I would bury the Statue of Liberty in my yard to sell my house if I lived next to you”?

Ask you neighbors. It has nothing to do with your church.

17 posted on 11/03/2011 9:11:32 AM PDT by Natural Law (Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
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>>Oh, wait I get what you’re saying..if it concerns the CATHOLIC CHURCH, it is “hate speech”. Everything else is open season?<<

Interesting how that works.

18 posted on 11/03/2011 9:13:00 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: fishtank

“The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself” (Ezekiel 18:20


19 posted on 11/03/2011 9:14:16 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Campion
"That would be the "biblical doctrine" rejected in James 2:24?"

It would be the same James who accepted this "biblical doctrine" at the cousel of Jerusalem.

20 posted on 11/03/2011 9:16:25 AM PDT by circlecity
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