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Staten Islanders react to Archbishop Dolan's statement banning gay marriage from Catholic churches
silive ^ | November 4, 2011 | Maura Grunlund

Posted on 11/05/2011 1:19:24 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 11/05/2011 1:19:27 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
The unions cannot be done in any church building, hall or other property. The prohibition even extends to consecrated items such as chalices, vestments and liturgical books.

Excellent! I wonder if this decree extends to other dioceses within the state of NY.

2 posted on 11/05/2011 1:21:17 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Liz; skully; The Mayor; Sun

Ping!


3 posted on 11/05/2011 1:22:05 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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I wonder if liberals would view homosexuals burning down Catholic Churches the same way they viewed the burning of black churches?

It was a rhetorical question. I know the answer.


4 posted on 11/05/2011 1:25:15 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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Catholics are the wrong kind of black people. :p

They are welcome to try. It might not work out well for them, though.


5 posted on 11/05/2011 1:28:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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**Archbishop Dolan issued a decree forbidding any priest or deacon from performing same-sex marriages. The unions cannot be done in any church building, hall or other property. The prohibition even extends to consecrated items such as chalices, vestments and liturgical books.**

God bless Archbishop Dolan for laying down the Law!

6 posted on 11/05/2011 1:29:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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What do these idiots expect the Catholic Church to do? It’s reassuring when a Bishop or Cardinal or the Pope reinforces teaching. Need more pro-abortion pols banned from the sacrament of communion and public pronouncements made about it.


7 posted on 11/05/2011 1:31:39 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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"The bill was not about making Catholic Churches or other churches perform marriages for same sex couples. It was about making civil marriage available to same-sex couples, regardless of what religion they follow or don't follow."

Yeah, but it puts to rest the idea that you could have a civil ceremony within a Catholic Church because that's what you guys would have done, one little step at a time.

8 posted on 11/05/2011 1:41:40 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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The true historical basis for civil marriages:

``Marriage Records

Marriage entries recorded the date and place of marriage. Information included the ages of the two parties, their residences, marital status, occupations, fathers, and even their fathers' occupations. Civil copies of marriage entries are duplicates of original church entries. Thus, since it was the duty of the minister to forward copies of all of the marriages he performed, the vast majority have been recorded at the civil level, even in the early years of civil registration. However, always be sure to check the original church record since there are often discrepancies between the civil and ecclesiastical copies of the same record. Clerical errors happen! We blogged about this recently.`` http://www.progenealogists.com/greatbritain/englishcivilregistration.htm

Sorry! But marriage is and always has been a function of religion, not government.

``Civil copies of marriage entries are duplicates of original church entries.``

9 posted on 11/05/2011 1:46:24 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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Isn’t it such a Wittgensteinian thing to equate “sodomy” with a civil right?

Marxists bastardize language——twist words-—Homosexual should NEVER be allowed to exist along side the word “marriage” like for centuries. It is obscene and ugly idea that is trying to be “normalized” so we can rid the world of the Bible and the true God.

All in a Marxist minute——redefinition of words—like abortion=pro-choice, etc. is to make some despicable behavior and choice appear “normal” and “natural”. There is nothing normal and natural about sodomy. It is an evil act.

Disgusting. The Blacks should be outraged. Behaviors that are destructive to humans should be outlawed like sodomy has been for hundreds of years.


10 posted on 11/05/2011 1:51:15 PM PDT by savagesusie
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The state of New York, in its wisdom, says that same sex couples may marry in civil ceremonies. That doesn’t mean that religions are forced to do the same.


11 posted on 11/05/2011 1:58:17 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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I think I might have read something somewhere about, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” or something along those lines.


12 posted on 11/05/2011 2:28:14 PM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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Supporters of the Marriage Equality Act were left to ponder why and whether his statement was politically motivated.

Don't strain your brain cell, dingbats.

13 posted on 11/05/2011 2:48:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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I liked this: “What I don’t understand is why religious organizations try to interfere with the civil rights of people as they have done in New York and California. I especially wonder how many of their members approve of the fact that their donations are being used to wage these legal battles.”

I absolutely approve of any and all money I give to the Church being used to support defense of True Marriage — one man and one woman. And I likewise support the use of my money to refute same-sex unions. They cannot, by definition, be marriages, since those suffering from same sex attraction cannot procreate with their “partners.”

To be completely blunt, I was more than a bit let down when the “act” was about to be signed by Cuomo. But I completely support the Archbishop’s actions here. And he has to make this decree since there are still modernists who require assistance in avoiding making truly grievous errors in the name of not raising a fuss or what-have-you.


14 posted on 11/05/2011 3:33:42 PM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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The Arch banned this? Funny, I thought the Church forbade it.


15 posted on 11/05/2011 3:34:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hail to the Thief)
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Supporters of the Marriage Equality Act were left to ponder why and whether his statement was politically motivated.

Yeah, clearly the Archbishop is trying to curry favor with people by standing up against the legitimization of homosexuality.

Fantasy-island alert.

16 posted on 11/05/2011 3:36:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hail to the Thief)
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To: sayuncledave

Excellent remarks, and I agree.


17 posted on 11/05/2011 3:44:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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“I think the whole issue of religious marriage was just an attempt to muddy the waters,” Ms. Palladino said.”

Yeah, that’s the problem here, “religoius marriage.” Right.

Freegards, thanks for all the pings


18 posted on 11/05/2011 4:07:28 PM PDT by Ransomed
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"The bill was not about making Catholic Churches or other churches perform marriages for same sex couples. It was about making civil marriage available to same-sex couples, regardless of what religion they follow or don't follow."

BULL! The intention is and always has been to have people accept your "lifestyle" choices with any legal forcible means necessary.

19 posted on 11/05/2011 4:14:07 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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“Staten Islanders react” means “we talked to a gay activist, a left-wing politican, and a gay left-wing politician.”


20 posted on 11/05/2011 4:17:53 PM PDT by heartwood
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