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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

You wrote:

“Oooh! I’ll take this one. It’s a gimme. It is so simple a child can understand it!”

Except you apparently don’t.

““Moses’ seat” is the Old Testament equivalent of the later claimed “Seat of St. Peter” from Linus forward. You do not find it elsewhere because it did not exist. It was fraudulent.”

So, you’re claiming Jesus told the Apostles to follow something that was fraudulent? “All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do”

“Pope = Papa = Father (as are all priests called)
Who gave you the right to directly contradict scripture?”

It doesn’t contradict scripture. If your interpretation was valid then Jesus would have contradicted His own words. See John 8:55-57

“The history of the Catholic Church. (e.g. on the destruction of the Cathars mixed with Catholics, ‘kill them all and let God sort them out’.)”

The whole “kill them all” myth is exactly that. There’s no reliable historical evidence anyone ever said them before the storming of a town in the Albigensian crusade. Medieval warfare was harsh. What was done on the battlefield by soldiers has nothing to do with Catholic doctrine.

Can you actually present any evidence for your claims?


45 posted on 11/16/2011 7:07:35 AM PST by vladimir998 (Public school grads are often too dumb to realize they're dumb)
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To: vladimir998

Arguing with Fundamentalist Protestants is like arguing with a brick wall because all you ever get is a mutual monologue.

They have their minds made up, and no amount of historical argument or appeals to how the Church Fathers read the Bible, etc. will open their minds.

They believe that they are individually superior to the Church Fathers and that they have an infallible understanding not of what the Bible says, but what it means. (Even Satan can quote scripture.)

As a historical note, the Patriarch of Alexandria was referred to as Pope before the Popes of Rome adopted the title.


48 posted on 11/16/2011 7:37:31 AM PST by rzman21
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To: vladimir998

No, Jesus did not say follow something fraudulent. The Pharisees had some authority. But had it been entirely legitimate, as Moses followed all the Lord’s commandments, he would not have differentiated them from the authority of Moses in Numbers 12.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Uh... the Jews were physically the Children of Abraham. The physical relationship of Father goes back to the 10 Commandments. How many children has the “Pope” had?


51 posted on 11/16/2011 7:48:51 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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