Posted on 11/28/2011 8:12:49 AM PST by Salvation
I really have no idea what point you are trying to make. Can you please simply state what you are trying to have me understand?
“Your salvation is your business.
I just know that my sins are forgiven and forgotten because God is the one who forgives them.”
If its just my business, why did you bother to post this article? If someone came up to you on the street and asked about their salvation, would you just say “that’s your business!”?
For example, if someone told me they were saved because they attended the right church, went through a particular ceremony, and used a specific word formula, I would have no problem gently and lovingly telling them that they shouldn’t place their faith in such things.
Four times I have asked a simple question that you refuse to answer directly - I will reword:
If someone claims a geniune salvation and faith in Jesus Christ, sealed by the Holy spirit, yet they are not catholic, what does your theology say about their eternal destiny?
If you don’t get it, there’s no use of my explaining any further. Get to know the Bible and its Author and you’ll understand.
“When I get back from Mass this morning I’ll try to find it online to copy and paste here so I don’t have to retype long passages.”
Please don’t waste your time and mine bringing me something from a “mass”.
Get what? Explain what?
You never explained anything - all you said is that Moses went without food and water for 80 days, and somehow that is supposed to put everything into perfect context?
I recommend you show some humility and examine whether you adequately demonstrate whatever points you were trying to make before assuming that others don’t know the Bible and its Author....that’s a pretty quick judgment on your part after only having a very brief conversation with me.
If Catholics want me to embrace their official position on any topic it would be beneficial for them to be able to have an honest, detailed discussion on Biblical passages. So far that hasn’t happened....
“Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant in the New Covenant of his Word.”
So you think G-d lost all his power to do things his way under the “New Covenant”?
Friend, I was not going to bring you back something from the mass; I just meant that after I returned, I was going to look the material up online and try to copy and paste it in a response. I have arthritis in my hands, you see, and typing out the material printed in my Catechism is painful. I devoted some time to looking it up for you. But just to judge by your post and the quotation marks you put around the word “mass,” I don’t get the sense that you’d be particularly receptive. Am I wrong? Are you interested in a real dialogue or are you just dead-set against anything I might post here? If the latter case, I don’t want to waste any more time or finger-power.
“Jesus wasn’t meaning to be literal, as he stated in John 16:25. Which I’ve said several times.
Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father”
You have stated this incorrectly several times. Read John 16 in context again. 16:25 refers to 16:21 where Jesus is speaking figuratively about “...as a woman in labor...feels pain...”.
Christ is clearly talking about what He cannot tell the Apostles about the pain he will endure, he doesn’t think they can accept it...and the fact they he is leaving them, “a little while and you will not see me, and a little while you will see me”
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