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Vatican Cardinal Burke: ‘We’re well on the way’ to Christian persecution in the U.S.
Life Site News ^ | 11-28-11 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 11/28/2011 8:49:17 PM PST by ReformationFan

VATICAN, November 28, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – One of the highest ranking cardinals in the Vatican has said that the United States is “well on the way” to the persecution of Christians. Cardinal Raymond Burke

Cardinal Raymond Burke, former Archbishop of St. Louis and now the head of the Vatican’s highest court, told Catholic News Agency that he could envision a time when the Catholic Church in the U.S., “even by announcing her own teaching,” is accused of “engaging in illegal activity, for instance, in its teaching on human sexuality.”

Asked if the cardinal could even see American Catholics being arrested for their faith he replied, “I can see it happening, yes.”

In his remarks to several U.S. Bishops meeting with him Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI made similarly emphatic warnings about the U.S. The pope told the bishops that “the seriousness of the challenges which the Church in America, under your leadership, is called to confront in the near future cannot be underestimated.”

He added: “The obstacles to Christian faith and practice raised by a secularized culture also affect the lives of believers.”

In the interview published today, Cardinal Burke declared that “it is a war” and “critical at this time that Christians stand up for the natural moral law.” Should they not, he warned, “secularization will in fact predominate and it will destroy us.”

Pope Benedict too urged the bishops of the United States to speak out in defense of morality. “The present moment can thus be seen, in positive terms, as a summons to exercise the prophetic dimension of your episcopal ministry by speaking out, humbly yet insistently, in defense of moral truth, and offering a word of hope, capable of opening hearts and minds to the truth that sets us free,” he said.

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I'm a Protestant but I agree with Cardinal Burke concerning the rise of persecution of Christians in the U.S..
1 posted on 11/28/2011 8:49:19 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Bingo


2 posted on 11/28/2011 8:52:50 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: None

The Republican Party over decades has served as an ineffectual doorstop towards a door swinging wide open to limiting the freedom of religion and approaching outright persecution.


Experts agree that five stages of a coming persecution can be identified:

(1) The targeted group is stigmatized; its reputation is attacked, possibly by mocking it and rejecting its values.

(2) Then the group is marginalized, or pushed out of the mainstream of society, with deliberate efforts to limit and undo its influence.

(3) The third stage is to vilify the group, viciously attacking it and blaming it for many of society’s problems.

(4) Next, the group is criminalized, with increasing restrictions placed on its activities and eventually even its existence.

(5) The final stage is one of outright persecution.

Many commentators believe the United States is now exiting stage three, and moving into stage four. Canada is firmly in Stage 4.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 8:57:03 PM PST by RBIEL2
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To: RBIEL2

I think we’re firmly in stage 4.


5 posted on 11/28/2011 9:07:56 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ReformationFan
I'm a Protestant but I agree with Cardinal Burke concerning the rise of persecution of Christians in the U.S..

I agree.

6 posted on 11/28/2011 9:09:05 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: RBIEL2

I think you have the Progressives play book. Reviewing the steps one by one, I can see the actions of each step as they were implemented. Covertly, not overtly, each step was implemented as silently as possible.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 9:15:42 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I think we’re firmly in stage 4.

Try sharing that with those with eyes that dont see, and ears that dont hear! Those kind even with good hearts wont realize anything until we're being imprisoned and/or fed to the lions.
8 posted on 11/28/2011 9:15:50 PM PST by RBIEL2
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To: ReformationFan

**In his remarks to several U.S. Bishops meeting with him Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI made similarly emphatic warnings about the U.S. The pope told the bishops that “the seriousness of the challenges which the Church in America, under your leadership, is called to confront in the near future cannot be underestimated.”**

BTTT!


9 posted on 11/28/2011 9:17:22 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tzar

The Sacrament of Confirmation has NEVER been dropped from the Catholic faith. Where are you getting your info?


10 posted on 11/28/2011 9:18:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ReformationFan

There’s always going to be some from every faith that realize that it just isn’t possible to alter the nature of the instution of marriage by majority vote. It was probably a mistake to involve the state, at least in modern times, as folks have been conditioned to think the state defines marriage. Now we are going to see the state punish those who aren’t going to go along with whatever it decides to call marriage for that year.

Freegards


11 posted on 11/28/2011 9:20:55 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ReformationFan

“it is a war”

Then start acting like it. Start excommunicating the pro-abortion and homo-marriage CINOs like Governor Martin OWEmally of Maryland.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 9:21:13 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: RBIEL2

Yep. Straight from here:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


13 posted on 11/28/2011 9:21:47 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Study philosophy, within the context of religion(Catholic).
The Catholic Church and its philosophers(who study all philosophies) have been predicting this for a long time in the context of the battle of philosophies. We are battling secularism, modernism, post-modernism....really the completion of the ‘age of enlightenment’. Remember the French Revolution and what they did to the Catholic Church. A follower of Voltaire wrote “Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.”
Except now the King haters are now Secularists trying to elimanate Christianity and its values.


14 posted on 11/28/2011 9:28:45 PM PST by RBIEL2
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To: RBIEL2

Thanks for the info!


15 posted on 11/28/2011 9:30:49 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RBIEL2

Gospel Lk 10:21-24

Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said,
"I give you praise, Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
for although you have hidden these things
from the wise and the learned
you have revealed them to the childlike.
Yes, Father, such has been your gracious will.
All things have been handed over to me by my Father.
No one knows who the Son is except the Father,
and who the Father is except the Son
and anyone to whom the Son wishes to reveal him."

Turning to the disciples in private he said,
"Blessed are the eyes that see what you see.
For I say to you,
many prophets and kings desired to see what you see,
but did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, but did not hear it."

17 posted on 11/28/2011 9:33:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RBIEL2
Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]
END TIMES PROPHECY OF ST FRANCIS OF ASSISSI (Catholic Caucus)
The Three Days of Darkness & Prophecies of Latter Times [Catholic Caucus]
18 posted on 11/28/2011 9:34:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ReformationFan
He added: “The obstacles to Christian faith and practice raised by a secularized culture also affect the lives of believers.” In the interview published today, Cardinal Burke declared that “it is a war”

Yawn. This is yet more PC ambiguity from the usual suspects. Our gathering enemy is "secularized culture?" Far be it from a bishop to actually name names. It should be obvious that the barbarians are at the gates. What we need from the bishops is credible leadership in organizing a defense.

19 posted on 11/28/2011 9:34:59 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Salvation

Hey I thought we had an agreement that you wouldnt talk to me and vice a versa. I dont need the headache of you not understanding what I write again.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 9:35:07 PM PST by RBIEL2
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To: RBIEL2

LOL! But I understand you on this topic. Hope that’s OK with you — or are you teasing?


21 posted on 11/28/2011 9:37:22 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tzar; Salvation
Catholics used to be confirmed as “soldiers of Christ”. The Vatican dropped that phrase because it is too mean. It should be reinstated.

This phrase was never dropped from Catholic traditionalist confirmations.

22 posted on 11/28/2011 9:38:36 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Salvation
Salvation, I don't think that Tzar meant that there is no longer the sacrament of Confirmation, but that the children are no longer taught that they will become “soldiers of Christ” as we were taught.

A few things I can see that will be very troubling for the church in the next few years is the problem that Catholic hospitals are going to run into under Obummercare, refusing to marry same sex couples and preaching against homosexuality.

24 posted on 11/28/2011 9:39:17 PM PST by Guardian Sebastian (If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it. Mark Twain)
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To: ReformationFan

This is very true. This is one reason I am so grateful to have the honor of singing purely Christian Christmas music at many secular venues this Christmas season in a major US city. I will sing about Christ until the day I die to as many people as possible. They can jail me, reject me, taunt, and kill me. I will never stop.


25 posted on 11/28/2011 9:40:45 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Guardian Sebastian; mas cerveza por favor

Posted on FR from:  The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Two: Channels of Grace, Confirmation

Sacramental Character.  The Church stresses that the indelible seal received in Confirmation is really a new character. It is not merely a deepening of the baptismal character. The Church’s tradition teaches that the confirmation character gives the power and the right to perform actions which are necessary in the spiritual battle against the enemies of the faith. These enemies are the world, our own proud intellect and will, and the evil spirit.

Moreover, the Church does not hesitate to say that Confirmation changes the simple members of the kingdom of Christ into soldiers of Christ. St. Ignatius, in his Spiritual Exercises, expresses this idea forcefully in the invitation that Christ extends to His chosen followers.

My will is to conquer the whole world and all enemies and thus to enter into the glory of my Father. Whoever, therefore, desires to come with me must labor with me in order that following me in pain, he may likewise follow me in glory (The Kingdom of Christ).

The character of Confirmation confers on the baptized the strength they need to live up to Christ’s expectations of the Mystical Body on earth, which is the Church Militant.

 

 

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Three words in the Church’s definition of Confirmation bring out the unique effects of this sacrament. They are to “witness to Christ,” and “spread and defend the faith.” On each of these three levels, Confirmation strengthens a Christian and imposes the obligation to witness, spread, and defend. Let us now examine them in detail.

  1. In order to be able to witness to Christ, Confirmation deepens a person’s faith by making Christ better understood, more clearly perceived, and more firmly believed in as the Son of the living God who became man to redeem the world. In a word, Confirmation strengthens our conviction of mind by enabling us to say with St. Paul: “I have not lost confidence, because I know who it is that I have put my trust in, and I have no doubt at all that He is able to take care of all that I have entrusted to Him until that Day” (II Timothy 1:12).

    Conviction is the bedrock of courage: A convinced mind is the foundation for a courageous will. Every courageous witness to Christ was, in effect, a martyr for Christ, either by shedding his blood for the Savior in dying a martyr’s death, or certainly testifying to his deathless love for Christ by living a martyr’s life.

  2. In order to be able to spread the faith, Confirmation develops our sense of mission and deepens our desire to share with others what others have so zealously passed on to us.

26 posted on 11/28/2011 9:50:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: icwhatudo

Leave the matter to Burke, and he would. But the matter is not in his hands. He is only one baron, so to speak, among many barons, great or small.


27 posted on 11/28/2011 9:59:58 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: RBIEL2
"Try sharing that with those with eyes that dont see, and ears that dont hear! "

If the State starts by outlawing the Catholic Church and imprisoning Bishops and Priests about a quarter of the non-Catholic Christians in this country won't be in any hurry to see the situation turned around.

JMHO

28 posted on 11/28/2011 10:00:59 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Bishops are not famous for their courage. Consider the fate of St. John Fisher, who alone stood up to Henry VIII. Lost his head. Literally.


29 posted on 11/28/2011 10:02:18 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: Salvation
I find myself coming back to these threads a lot lately.

Its also worth noting that Our Lady of Kibeho (Vatican approved Apparition in Rwanda that in the early 1980s foretold the genocide there in the 1990s) strongly recommended the Rosary of the Seven Sorrows. A friend gave me one of these Rosaries (it has seven decades of seven beads each) this weekend that she got at a talk by Immaculee Ilibagiza.

30 posted on 11/28/2011 10:04:42 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: ReformationFan

Either Christians form effective political action groups or the Left will make us “domestic terrorists” and seriously harm us like all the commies before them have done.

Amorality is deadly to the moral.


31 posted on 11/28/2011 10:16:23 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Salvation
Here is what wikipedia says about the "soldier of Christ" issue:

The "soldier of Christ" imagery, remains valid [7] but is downplayed... Then he strikes him lightly on the cheek, saying: Peace be with you) (cf. the knightly custom of the accolade). When, in application of the Second Vatican Council's Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy,[10] the Confirmation rite was revised in 1971, mention of this gesture was omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_(Catholic_Church)

Admittedly wikipedia often has a leftist bias, but its report on the post-Vatican II watering down of Confirmation is consistent with the consensus among traditionalists.

32 posted on 11/28/2011 10:18:11 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: RobbyS; Salvation; icwhatudo; mas cerveza por favor; RBIEL2
Cardinal Burke is still diligently working on the proper implementation of Canon 915. He has written a book on the Eucharist that explicitly addresses the issue. And I suspect he has other tricks up his sleeve ;-)
33 posted on 11/28/2011 10:21:23 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: RobbyS

Do not forget Blessed Pope Urban II who launched the Holy Crusades with the slogan “Deus vult!” (God wills it!)


34 posted on 11/28/2011 10:22:20 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Rashputin
Some historically Catholic countries have experienced periods of intense anti-clericalism sometimes amounting to actual warfare on the Catholic Church--France and Mexico, for example. When the Mexican government was waging war on the Catholic Church in the 1920s, some prominent Protestants in the US welcomed it, thinking it would make it easier for them to win converts in Mexico, and the Mexican President responsible was welcomed at the White House.

Of course the situation is different in the US because the Catholic Church has never been the religion favored by the government.

Unfortunately a lot of the Catholic bishops have been the enablers of a lot of the developments they now fear, by their support of Democratic politicians.

35 posted on 11/28/2011 10:25:44 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
>i>"Unfortunately a lot of the Catholic bishops have been the enablers of a lot of the developments they now fear, by their support of Democratic politicians. "

The sled was going down the hill anyway but without a doubt they greased the skids. A good many of them seem to have taken Vatican II to mean that they could become a separate US Catholic Church in name and just another liberal Protestant denomination in reality. Had it not been for the enthusiastic support of a good many Bishops, Priests, and Nuns, as well as a good percentage of the Catholic folks in the pews, our current situation would probably have been delayed but I'm not sure it could have been avoided altogether.

Regards

36 posted on 11/28/2011 10:46:31 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Williams
I don't know if this will make anyone feel just a little better about this, but anti-Catholic remarks and attacks on all Christians and Judaism as well are what brought my family back into the church, making us not just “cafeteria Catholics”. Over the past 10 years we have become closer to our Catholic faith and have a better understanding of it then ever before. We used to take it for granted, we called ourselves Catholic, there was a physical church down the street and occasionally on holidays we would attend. But with increasingly anti-religious rantings, laws passed, and the secularization of our society, it got us up off our butts and back to church, and I wanted to learn more so I could defend my Catholic beliefs. I hope this is happening with others, as well.
37 posted on 11/28/2011 11:47:01 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: icwhatudo

aye that

the Church has contributed to its own demise by its leadership simpering and enabling rabid pro-abortion pro-adultery politicians like O’Malley Pelosi and the Kennedys


38 posted on 11/29/2011 1:04:44 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: ReformationFan

39 posted on 11/29/2011 1:45:33 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ReformationFan

Big Difference though.

Americans of Christian faith will more likely go on the defensive.


40 posted on 11/29/2011 3:22:17 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Cvengr

From what I have heard, John Paul II would kiss even a music cd by a Irish rock band as well.


41 posted on 11/29/2011 3:23:46 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ReformationFan

I second it also, but there will be a angry blow-back or fighting back.


42 posted on 11/29/2011 3:26:05 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: RBIEL2
Blaming a political party for the failure of religious leaders and laypersons to stand up for their own rights in this republic is misplaced blame.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

There is no easy way out and we have good reason to question whether it is altogether too late to effectively change course before we are past the point of no return.

44 posted on 11/29/2011 4:57:32 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
Your statement can not be posted often enough. Yet....Even some Freepers defend their child's socialist and godless school. “My child's ( socialist and godless) school is different”, they say. ( eye roll). In the meantime, our leading conservative talk show yappers will make an occasional jab at our nation's socialist and godless schools but very few will clearly state the danger they pose to our freedom.

So here are your words again:

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system.

45 posted on 11/29/2011 5:20:22 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: jacknhoo
There is no easy way out and we have good reason to question whether it is altogether too late to effectively change course before we are past the point of no return.
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Yes, there is good reason to doubt if the Constitution will prevail. Even conservatives fail fail fail fail to address the problem of socialist and godless schooling. It is urgent. We must permanently shut down the godless socialist-funded schools. Conservatives must work to see that every child in this nation has access to a private educational setting that supports the Judeo Christian culture of Western Civilization and our nation's founding principles.

Your words can not be posted often enough. WHEN WILL CONSERVATIVES WAKE UP???????????!!!!! ( Yes, I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit!)

You words AGAIN:
Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

Our constitution has been overrun because of generations of lazy complacent parents who let decades of children be indoctrinated in atheistic socialism by our atheistic socialist public school system. A system which was deliberately created not for education, but for indoctrination into atheistic socialism which. The effects of which are evident in every aspect of American life now.

46 posted on 11/29/2011 5:29:24 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: ReformationFan
In the interview published today, Cardinal Burke declared that “it is a war” and “critical at this time that Christians stand up for the natural moral law.”
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My daughter taught in a Texas Catholic K-8 school. All of the teachers and the principal voted for Obama. Her class was the **only** class whose children did **not** watch the inauguration of Obama. ( She did not renew her contract.)

I wonder if the teachers in this “Catholic” school attended our nation's system of socialist and godless schools and then went on to earn teaching degrees from Marxist infested socialist-funded and godless colleges and universities.

By the way....I read that there is a movement among believing and faithful Catholic families to start their own independent schools. Families get together and hire a teacher. Seems like a good idea to me.

47 posted on 11/29/2011 5:38:48 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Salvation

Today’s daily mass gospel reading.


48 posted on 11/29/2011 5:39:10 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Rashputin

Thankfully, we are starting to see the begining of the needed corrections with the new 3rd Edition Roman Missal in English this past weekend. They may be what are called “baby steps”, but first steps neverless.


49 posted on 11/29/2011 5:42:06 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Rashputin

“Try sharing that with those with eyes that dont see, and ears that dont hear! “
If the State starts by outlawing the Catholic Church and imprisoning Bishops and Priests about a quarter of the non-Catholic Christians in this country won’t be in any hurry to see the situation turned around.

JMHO”

Would it suprise you that when the “attacks” start to go to other churches, than it becomes a whole different ball game. Than Christians in the USA WILL HAVE NO CHOICE but to stand in union with each other.

JMHO as well.


50 posted on 11/29/2011 5:46:43 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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