What Jesus said about homosexuality -- Part 1

Renew America ^ | 11-14-11 | Dan Popp

[Former Fetus]

No, I don’t. I THINK I do, but I cannot know for sure, so I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt. It just happened that last Sunday, in Sunday school, we studied what parts of the Law were reaffirmed in the New Testament and what parts were not. I thought I would add my 2 cents to the discussion, without realizing that some people are in this forum just “aching for a fight”. You can have it your way, but as for me, I am FREE FROM THE LAW (Ro. 8:2).

[stuartcr]

I agree, but I’m not asking Him. So you believe God creates Muslims and non-Christians for His glory. Thanks

[stuartcr]

???

[stuartcr]

I don’t. That is just how He is referred to by most.

[ReformationFan]

You’re welcome. For more details on historic Presbyterian beliefs, this is the Westminster Confession of Faith:

http://www.pcanet.org/general/cof_contents.htm

I also recommend you read the Bible in its entirety for yourself to learn more about what Christians of all backgrounds believe. If you don’t have a Bible, you can request one here:

http://freebiblesociety.org/index.htm

You can also access the Bible free online here:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/

I recommend any of these English language versions: the King James Version, the New King James Version or the English Standard Version. Those are the 3 I’ve read through so far.

[rollo tomasi]

“???”

Right.

Quit feigning ignorance and answer the question in post 78 if you so desire. Your tag line/questions reek of a mischievous god; loki fits your definition of that god.

The god you portray in your mind is far from the “He” “G-d” you refer to, hence the question.

Also, why do you use "He" if you don't believe in referencing a deity by gender?

Just because the gender is historically used "by most", does not mean one should be compelled to use the specific classification. In my experience, those that use and peculate Judea/Christian references, then proceed to twist the meaning are acting in a defamatory manner; especially if on does not believe in gender identity of a god in the first place.

[stuartcr]

So if I want to know what an individual thinks about God, I should just read the Bible, and not ask them? Then I wouldn’t get to interact much with people. Besides, it seems that in a number of cases, there are different personal interpretations and Christian beliefs.

[stuartcr]

I capitalize out of respect for God Our Father. Why do you?

Should I say It? When we say the Our Father, it makes one believe that God is a He, doesn’t it?

Perhaps you’re not as experienced as you think?

[ReformationFan]

I think everyone should read the Bible in its entirety, regardless of whether one interacts with others concerning faith matters or not. It’s the most influential book in Western Civilization and will help you understand our culture and the world we live in. It will also help you when you ask Christians about what they believe and why. As has been said before, knowledge is power.

[stuartcr]

Thanks, while I have read much of the Bible, I haven’t read it in it’s entirety. It has very good information in it, but it doesn’t address the questions that I ask here. While I like information, I certainly have no desire for power, besides, I don’t know how that applies in this case.

[Daveinyork]

Jesus has freed you from the law? Did he say that?

[Former Fetus]

From Paul's letter to the Romans, inspired by the Holy Spirit: For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death (Ro. 8:2) And, before you start telling me that the "law of sin and death" has nothing to do with the Mosaic Law, read verses 3 and 4: For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit .

[Former Fetus]

For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. (Ro 6:14)

But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. (Ro 7:6)

[Daveinyork]

So it was Paul, not Jesus, who freed you from the Law?

[bmwcyle]

Thank you for the truth.

[rollo tomasi]

If you claim the Judea/Christian God, you better understand what sovereignty is and what God said in the beginning about enabling His the secondary creation to their own make choices. Choices stuartcr that God used whether they were/are/still to come good or bad choices. Contrary to your belief these choices the secondary pick are not EXCUSABLE, on the contrary, God for the most part grants individuals/society what they want. That is what the Judea/Christian God put forth, who, is reference as a male Figurehead BTW.

Now why do you choose this God to reference your own god? Out of respect?

Respect should not be shown to a deity that creates puppets on strings with no conditions attached; who enables the creation to endure suffering for nothing.

One, that signifies an absentee creator,

Two, signifies a god who does not love,

Three, the god engages in confusion,

Four, the god loves chaos,

Five, is a god who cannot be trusted...

What is your “god's” plan stuartcr? Revelation and instructions come from a caring God, not silence and “favoritism” which you unknowingly promote by relishing in confusion without out Spiritual consequences.

This “Divine plan” is nothing short of saving man from themselves. Human nature is very easy to predict, especially in a society that rationalizes Spiritual consequences away. If you read the Bible, He emphasizes the point repeatably while throwing lifelines to those who humble themselves.

[stuartcr]

You can claim anything you want, I don’t claim anything, as I believe there is only one God.

I have no concept or idea about those gods you keep talking about. Do they even exist? If so, how do you know that?