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To: Belteshazzar; MHGinTN; MarkBsnr
“My personal belief is that God brought to Mary’s womb the already formed embryo-aged Jesus for implantation.”

This is an echo of Henry Morris's attempt to solve a non-existent problem. In one of the Institute for Creation Research bulletins from the late 1970s, Morris reasoned himself into a corner by saying that since Jesus had to be the perfect lamb of God and since lambs for Passover in which there was any defect were rejected and since sin had had a corrupting effect on the human race and since Mary was part of the human race, then Jesus could not be the perfect lamb of God and have come from the sin-corrupted flesh of Mary and, so, must have been created ex nihilo within Mary's womb.

Aside from the problem of a divine in utero creation not being a conception, as was stated in the accounts, Morris fundamentally misunderstands the nature of sin as well as the nature of nature. According to Paul, the reason creation is subject to decay is not because it has been "invaded and corrupted" by sin, but because God subjected it temporarily to this "frustration" and "bondage of decay" until such time that "the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God" (Romans 8). Sin matters but sin is not matter. Matter is not evil. Matter is not sinful. Matter does not transmit sin. Sin is not inherited through DNA, genomic or mitochondrial. Morris, and others who come up with similar schemes, are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
178 posted on 12/09/2011 8:49:32 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan; Belteshazzar; MHGinTN
“My personal belief is that God brought to Mary’s womb the already formed embryo-aged Jesus for implantation.”

This is an echo of Henry Morris's attempt to solve a non-existent problem. In one of the Institute for Creation Research bulletins from the late 1970s, Morris reasoned himself into a corner by saying that since Jesus had to be the perfect lamb of God and since lambs for Passover in which there was any defect were rejected and since sin had had a corrupting effect on the human race and since Mary was part of the human race, then Jesus could not be the perfect lamb of God and have come from the sin-corrupted flesh of Mary and, so, must have been created ex nihilo within Mary's womb.

Aside from the problem of a divine in utero creation not being a conception, as was stated in the accounts, Morris fundamentally misunderstands the nature of sin as well as the nature of nature. According to Paul, the reason creation is subject to decay is not because it has been "invaded and corrupted" by sin, but because God subjected it temporarily to this "frustration" and "bondage of decay" until such time that "the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God" (Romans 8). Sin matters but sin is not matter. Matter is not evil. Matter is not sinful. Matter does not transmit sin. Sin is not inherited through DNA, genomic or mitochondrial. Morris, and others who come up with similar schemes, are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

Very elegant argument.


186 posted on 12/09/2011 4:59:28 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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