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Does Christianity Need the Bible?
Doug Beaumont.org ^ | 12/8/11 | Doug Beaumont

Posted on 12/08/2011 2:01:52 PM PST by OneVike

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To: presently no screen name

Orthodoxy without orthopraxy equals Pharisaism.


81 posted on 12/09/2011 1:22:21 PM PST by rzman21
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To: RegulatorCountry

because these traditions fail when being tested by scripture.

>>Correction. They fail when being tested by private interpretations of scripture.


82 posted on 12/09/2011 1:25:49 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Cvengr

Christianity is a spiritual life, not an academic study, nor a religious persuasion.
>>Amen. Too many modern Fundamentalist or Conservative Christians reduce Christianity to texts. It has to be lived.

The enemies of Christianity latch onto this Pharasaism and use it to undermine the Church.


83 posted on 12/09/2011 1:37:49 PM PST by rzman21
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To: editor-surveyor

You are lost eternally if this post is really how you see things.

>>Who put you on the throne for Judgement Day?


84 posted on 12/09/2011 1:41:58 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
>>Correction. They fail when being tested by private interpretations of scripture.

They fail under the plain sense of scripture, under any translation. They're only deemed acceptable due to extra-Biblical reinterpretations and decrees of fallible men who have the presumption to deem themselves infallible.

85 posted on 12/09/2011 2:13:33 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: OneVike
for some reason this reminds me of the great debate on how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. a lot of activity and energy and great intellectual thought that had no application.

I would not present this to students. It may be an interesting intellectual exercise that brings glory to who? there are much better things to be talking about and doing. If skeptics are offended that is ok.

the fact is God CHOSE to use the bible to communicate with us. He didn't have to but he did. the people in the new testament were steeped in old testament.

Personally as a christian, I have stopped reading all the other books about Christianity and stick to the original source.

86 posted on 12/09/2011 2:19:46 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: rzman21
Orthodoxy without orthopraxy equals Pharisaism.

Man-made teachings/traditions equal deception.

God's Word is The Final Authority. "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
87 posted on 12/09/2011 2:29:29 PM PST by presently no screen name (If it's not in God's Word, don't pass it off as truth! That's satan's job.)
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To: rzman21

It’s a good thing nobody suggested that...


88 posted on 12/09/2011 2:47:21 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: OneVike
but it is not needed to grow the Church.

your above comment may be revealing? If I wanted to grow the church and/or Christianity, I definitely would not use the Bible. this has been successfully demonstrated to us..................Personally, I would not go where you are proposing, there is too much danger.
89 posted on 12/09/2011 3:30:58 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: presently no screen name

Fundamentalists are full of themselves and are little better than the Pharisees.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.” Matthew 23:25


90 posted on 12/09/2011 3:46:21 PM PST by rzman21
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To: RegulatorCountry

The canon was decreed by fallible men.


91 posted on 12/09/2011 3:47:28 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
The canon was decreed by fallible men.

What, infallibility wasn't decreed retroactive? I'm shocked. Yes, men are fallible. Inspired scripture is not. That's why we need it, and not men running amok without such an immovable anchor to truth. Otherwise, they'd start imagining themselves infallible, start prancing around in ermine gowns and slippers, and just generally making asses of themselves.

Oh, wait ...

92 posted on 12/09/2011 4:04:57 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: rzman21

This isn’t judgement day, its one man to another, trying to keep him from destruction.


93 posted on 12/09/2011 4:08:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Scripture doesn’t self-decree the canon. Many early Christians, for example, regarded Revelation and Hebrews as apocryphal.


94 posted on 12/09/2011 4:09:47 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

Yes. And you? Do you regard the books of Revelation and Hebrews apocryphal?


95 posted on 12/09/2011 4:12:18 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: editor-surveyor

This isn’t judgement day, its one man to another, trying to keep him from destruction.

>>So you are saying that people are going to hell if they disagree with your personal understanding of the Bible? It sounds kind of smug if you ask me.


96 posted on 12/09/2011 4:12:19 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; RegulatorCountry

Scripture needs no interpretation, its language is simple, and intended for all.

Ever notice how Christ carefully explained each parable to his sheep?

Interpretation is always error; plain reading is the word of God. Traditions are a barrier between the sheep and their shepherd.


97 posted on 12/09/2011 4:14:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: rzman21

The bible requires no special understanding; it is written for all.


98 posted on 12/09/2011 4:15:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: rzman21; RegulatorCountry

Some lost souls may have regarded Revelation and Hebrews as apocryphal, but not likely any of God’s elect.

The early Christians didn’t have Revelation, it was penned in 0094 more or less. They had the same prophecies though, in Daniel, and Zechariah.


99 posted on 12/09/2011 4:22:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

The notion of a “plain reading of scripture” is not Biblical.

2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


100 posted on 12/09/2011 4:24:41 PM PST by rzman21
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