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IBTZ. Calvinism as similar to islam is a stretch.
It’s taken a long time but I’ve finally read the dumbest thing ever written by a human being. I can die in peace now.
Calvinism and Islam both have a similar legalistic streak and both reject the role of reason in faith.
Pope Benedict XVI drew the connection in his Regensburg Address:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html
Dehellenization first emerges in connection with the postulates of the Reformation in the sixteenth century. Looking at the tradition of scholastic theology, the Reformers thought they were confronted with a faith system totally conditioned by philosophy, that is to say an articulation of the faith based on an alien system of thought. As a result, faith no longer appeared as a living historical Word but as one element of an overarching philosophical system. The principle of sola scriptura, on the other hand, sought faith in its pure, primordial form, as originally found in the biblical Word. Metaphysics appeared as a premise derived from another source, from which faith had to be liberated in order to become once more fully itself. When Kant stated that he needed to set thinking aside in order to make room for faith, he carried this programme forward with a radicalism that the Reformers could never have foreseen. He thus anchored faith exclusively in practical reason, denying it access to reality as a whole.
As I understand it: “Luther was not as Luthern” and John Calvin was not a Calvinist.”
Jesus Christ was not a Christian; but his followers were!
The word Christian is given only three times in our Scripture:
1) “....And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.” (Acts 11:26c)
2) “Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost persuadest me to be a Christian.” (Acts 26:28)
3) “Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed: but let him glorify God on this behalf.” (1 Peter 4:16)
“For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God, and if it begin at us, what shall it the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to Him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.” (1 Peter 4:17-19)
Just stupid... the only similarity is Rome killed protestants and muslims
In all honesty, the article is correct. There where many Calvinist’s that “went Turk” back in the day. Some because of trade (so they could get places they couldn’t other wise). Some because of being forced, but many because of the similarities.
There are VAST differences, but look at where Geneva was starting to head even in the time of Calvin. There were some who wanted to dump the Trinity already.
The American constitution was written by Calvinists. These were Madison and his friends.
They were concerned about limiting government and they wanted a separation and balance of powers.. Why? They knew something about the human heart.
Considering the time, this is funny. It was a very common thing, in Catholic and non Catholic kingdoms. In fact, just getting your arm chopped off was pretty mild for most places!
IBTZ
FWIW, Oswald Spengler compares the historical roles of Mohammed and Cromwell, the Calvinist Lord Protector.
Intriguing. ;^)
You’ve been here since September.
Stop being a troublemaker.
God knows we don’t need any more here.
# 841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”[330] http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm#841
Dear Relig Mod,
I please ask that you pull this thread. For many years, I have established myself on the Religion Forum as a non-calvinistic freeper.
However, when the rules of the new religion forum were established, and then when enhanced at the coming of a new mod half a decade ago or more, there was an insistence that an article title could NOT be an attack on another group....that it’s very wording be sure to start a flame war.
This article is such an article. Suggesting that Calvinism is hateful, fanatical islam does a disservice to the Reformation’s great history, but more importantly to the rules of this forum, it will cause a flame war for no other reason that to cause a flame war.
I could post an article entitled “The Pope is the AntiChrist” and I think we’d get the same result. (Although I don’t believe that.)
Perhaps my point is lost in the dimness of the past, and that the insistence that a thread not be designed to cause a flame war is lost in that same past. Nonetheless, it is so, and those rules were for sound reasons.
Dear Relig Mod,
I please ask that you pull this thread. For many years, I have established myself on the Religion Forum as a non-calvinistic freeper.
However, when the rules of the new religion forum were established, and then when enhanced at the coming of a new mod half a decade ago or more, there was an insistence that an article title could NOT be an attack on another group....that it’s very wording be sure to start a flame war.
This article is such an article. Suggesting that Calvinism is hateful, fanatical islam does a disservice to the Reformation’s great history, but more importantly to the rules of this forum, it will cause a flame war for no other reason that to cause a flame war.
I could post an article entitled “The Pope is the AntiChrist” and I think we’d get the same result. (Although I don’t believe that.)
Perhaps my point is lost in the dimness of the past, and that the insistence that a thread not be designed to cause a flame war is lost in that same past. Nonetheless, it is so, and those rules were for sound reasons.
I hardly know any thing about Calvin at all but i have heard of these kind of punishments,if that is what Calvin believed in then i would agree that it is comparable to Islam.
So what it amounts to is that i do not believe in the papal power and i do not agree with things Calvin believed in and did so what do i believe in? only the Bible, and i will believe in it according to my understanding which i perceive to be using common sense in rightly dividing the word of God.
No doubt many people would not call many of my views common sense at all but it is my trip to heaven or hell, though i don,t know what either one of them are for sure, but at any rate i am not going to leave it to Paul, Calvin, or to the Protestant or catholic churches, Jesus has gave us the truth to set us free from all of this and he has given us the way to God which is through him alone.
Cutting off peoples limbs, Selling salvation or forgiving people in the name of God, how many abominations will God put up with?
I really believe many of the things in our history was foretold in Rev. so although people can get to love their Church they should put Jesus,s words first.