Posted on 12/13/2011 11:51:34 AM PST by Jedediah
We have the 'full truth' in whatever God has determined we need to know in this world Mark....He gave it to us thru His son..."And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us"... All truth is in and of Christ and His words He left us with.
As I have stated before...when catholics stop looking for what's not there and focus instead at what IS there the Lord God has given,... then some advance might be made in how we might agree....but as long as catholics keep on looking for what's not there then they cannot hardly address what's been given...it distracts from the truth rather than enhances it.
I'm stating this again because it is so prevelant when you and others respond....it's a pattern seen often and used to evade what's there before them.
So do you believe God's Word is your Final Authority Mark or not?
Yep..and that's the bottom line..."The Word became flesh and dwelt among us"
Don't know why half the post got dropped off before...but has happened before. Thinking FR gets hick-ups on occassion!
If people couch their positions in ambiguous statements, then I prefer to clarify my answer to a position that is more clearly defined.
We have the 'full truth' in whatever God has determined we need to know in this world Mark....He gave it to us thru His son..."And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us"... All truth is in and of Christ and His words He left us with.
Let us see you jettison the words of Peter, Paul, Jude and John if what you say is true.
As I have stated before...when catholics stop looking for what's not there and focus instead at what IS there the Lord God has given,... then some advance might be made in how we might agree....but as long as catholics keep on looking for what's not there then they cannot hardly address what's been given...it distracts from the truth rather than enhances it.
We have the truth of Christ. We need no reforming.
I'm stating this again because it is so prevelant when you and others respond....it's a pattern seen often and used to evade what's there before them. So do you believe God's Word is your Final Authority Mark or not?
I believe that God is the Final Authority. You say Word. Do you mean Jesus? You see, anything can mean anything when outside of the Church. I've had a number of antiCatholics sneeringly inform me that the Word is the Bible, for instance.
Then why not simply state you need clarity from the poster rather than you beating around the bush?.. Had you asked the the poster what they ment by 'the Word' it would have supported your effort to "clarify your response, but that does not seem to me what your intentions were...as mentioned prior in my post...rather distancing from the statement.
<Let us see you jettison the words of Peter, Paul, Jude and John if what you say is true.
... Why?...This is not a hard reading to understand...("And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us")......The entire first chapter of John makes it quite clear the scriptures are speaking of Christ.....
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. ...'HE' was with God in the beginning."....Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made."......"In Him was "life" and that life was the light of men."....The light shines in the darkness but the darkness has not understood it."........to all who received him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to be become children of God"---children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God."
...In other words Jesus is the Gospel. ...Jesus is Gods promise. He is God both speaking his word and keeping his word. ......and so what I have stated surely is true and the scriptures clearly attest to that as stated here.
We have the truth of Christ. We need no reforming.
Who said you needed reforming? I didn't. But I would have no problem saying it would be a good thing for most to leave the catholic church as it gives no indication it's going to promote Jesus Christ first and foremost above all the "other stuff" they promote above Him.
Now maybe you don't do that but many do Mark...you seem at times to be on a different page then others who practice Catholicism...however your tag does attest to where your devotion lays.
Then why not simply state you need clarity from the poster rather than you beating around the bush?.. Had you asked the the poster what they ment by 'the Word' it would have supported your effort to "clarify your response, but that does not seem to me what your intentions were...as mentioned prior in my post...rather distancing from the statement.
Look at the poster and the content of the post.
...In other words Jesus is the Gospel. ...Jesus is Gods promise. He is God both speaking his word and keeping his word. ......and so what I have stated surely is true and the scriptures clearly attest to that as stated here.
Negative. Jesus is NOT the Gospel. Jesus is the Word of God (Logos). The Gospels are the words of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (through however many translations) that attempt to write the Word of God into the word of God. We believe that the Gospels are the highest point of revelation to man, since God Himself Incarnated as a man and spent His time on earth teaching and Creating His Church.
Now maybe you don't do that but many do Mark...you seem at times to be on a different page then others who practice Catholicism...however your tag does attest to where your devotion lays.
Thank you; I will take this as a compliment. But never forget that I as a Christian stand on the shoulders of theological giants. My tagline comes from St. Augustine, a theological giant and defender of the Church. He not only believed it; he used it effectively to battle the heretics and apostates.
Put your analyst on danger money, baby.
I'm Holy Spirit filled
You may need a team.
and I don't analyze God's Word,
Stream of consciousness Christianity. Just what Jesus taught.
I believe it. Jesus said '...Just believe'.
He also taught what to believe. He didn't say to make it all up as you go along.
They why do catholics believe man made teachings? They bow to 'man' and snub the Words of the ONLY one with Truth, JESUS. That does not end well.
Pulling snippets and phrases from the Bible does a Christian make. We bow to God and venerate the words of Jesus (the Gospels) above the rest of the Bible. We are repeatedly excoriated by ersatz Christians for doing so.
As Christians, our end is with Christ. We will face Him, the Ultimate Judge and have no hocus pocus or fairy tale magic that will explain that away. You may wish to turn your attention on those who pretend differently. We will take our lives before Him and He will Judge. Pure and simple and unadorned.
Christians pray for His Mercy. Ersatz Christians self declare their own salvation.
Christians look to God's Word ALONE for Truth - all others look to man for truth.
See my previous post.
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