Skip to comments.LDS Church, through Church News, praised Hitler, Nazi Germany
Posted on 12/15/2011 8:04:42 AM PST by Colofornian
(To see Cal Grondahls cartoon that goes with this post, click here) History is blunt. Left to itself, it doesnt spin or gloss over unpleasant facts. The positive side to unvarnished history is that it can prevent future mistakes. There are many examples in history of religions enabling evil. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not an exception to this rule. A glance at the Dec. 9, 1933, LDS Church News, published with The Deseret News, contains a particularly unpleasant puff piece on Nazi Germany, and its leaders, Adolf Hitler, as well as Joseph Goebbels.
Its titled, Mormonism in the New Germany, and penned by the unfortunately over-enthusiastic Dale Clark, is grotesque in its effusive praise for Hitler. Here is an example: As a specimen of physical endurance Hitler can easily take his place along side the athletes who are usually taken as classic examples. His 14 year struggle which brought him to power in Germany put him to a terrific physical strain (sic). Besides the great responsibility there has been trials and conflicts, and campaigning so strenuous that it has required his attention night and day, many times making it necessary for him to travel great distances by auto or plane, catching up on his sleep underway to fit him for the multitudes who would gather to hear him wherever he had time to stop.
Its amazing today to read such a sidling, fawning account of the 20th century madman, and I wonder if the Nazis controlled or edited what Clark submitted from Germany. The alternative is even worse to comprehend. In other parts of the article, the author sycophantically points out similarities between LDS Doctrine and Nazi Germany. Readers learn that Hitler and Goebbels lead Word of Wisdom-type lifestyles and do not drink or smoke. Also, the German custom of Fast Sunday, where Germans fast and donate the cost of the missed meals to a winter charity fund, is extolled for its similarity to Mormonism. Clark writes, again in press-release style, it has the important purpose of developing that spirit of sacrifice that is so being stressed in the new Germany, and also of creating more of a feeling of unity and brotherhood through voluntary mutual help.
Early in the article, Clark writes, ominously, that religious freedom flourishes in Nazi Germany, except for a few sects (which) have been prohibited or restricted. We can guess at least one people of faith persecuted in Hitlers Germany at that time the Jews. And this leads to the most disturbing part of Clarks national hagiography: finding a missionary moment in Nazi Germanys persecution of Jews. After detailing previous difficulties to get access to Germanys archives to do genealogy, Clark writes, Now, due to the importance given to the racial question, and the almost necessity of proving that ones grandmother was not a Jewess, the old record books have been dusted off and stand ready and waiting for use. No questions are asked. In fact some of the Saints instead of being refused by the pastors now have received letters of encouragement complimenting them for their patriotism.
It is impossible to read that and not shiver with repulsion at why the old record books stood ready and waiting for use. Clarks effusive cheerleading for Nazism is a dark moment in LDS history. But, as mentioned, it is history, delivered in a blunt, pure fashion. It underscores the enabling that many organizations, religious or otherwise, used to have a presence in the heart of evil. Church President Heber J. Grant, no doubt worried about persecution Mormons might receive, urged members in Germany in 1937 to get along and not cause problems. Another disturbing example as late as 1939 of Mormon enabling of Nazism was remarks in a Nazi media organ written by West German LDS mission president, Alfred C. Rees. Like Clark, Rees enthusiastically compared Nazism with Mormonism. (1)
There are more courageous exceptions, of course. One Latter-day Saint who stood up to Hitlers rule was Helmuth Hubener, who died a martyr at 17, tortured and beheaded in 1942 for belonging to an anti-Nazi group and publishing anti-Nazi leaflets. Hubener, who is the subject of a Gunter Grass novel, was first repulsed by Nazism as a boy when he witnessed anti-Semitism in his local ward. Hubener was quickly excommunicated by local authorities. However, his excommunication was later reversed by LDS authorities, who said local German leaders had not followed proper procedures. According to historians Alan F. Keele and Douglas F. Tobler, Hubeners leaflets show that the teenager regarded his opposition to Nazism as a component of his religion. Hubeners final words to the judges who sentenced him to die, Wait. Your turn will come, underscore his courage and resolve.
Hubeners branch president was a fervent Nazi, who played Hitlers speeches at the branch. Another branch member, Heinrich Worbs, was tortured at a concentration camp for calling a state-honored Nazi a butcher. Worbs, according to Keele and Tobler, was so physically ruined after his detention that he died months after release.
Clarks article from 1933 fascinates me as much for its style as its repulsive cheerleading. It contains several examples of modern totalitarian propaganda efforts, that were also used, and refined, by Soviet-led communism. Theres the effusive praise for the leaders, praise for the party (in one instance Clark uses the phrase originality and political genius of the Hitler party to tout relief efforts in Germany), and the use of the terms voluntary and unity as propaganda phrases. For an example, go back to the third paragraph of this piece, where Clark writes, it has the important purpose of developing that spirit of sacrifice that is so being stressed in the new Germany, and also of creating more of a feeling of unity and brotherhood through voluntary mutual help. One more example of modern propaganda includes Clarks description of posters from youth Nazi organizations against tobacco and womens cosmetics.
As mentioned, blunt history can also be a teaching tool. Its doubtful the ugliness of Clarks Church News article would ever be repeated today. Unfortunately, when adverse history is not blunt but is instead de-emphasized, massaged, or rationalized, it can be repeated. To read the Dec. 9, 1933, Deseret News and Church News, go here.
(1) Keele and Tobler, Sunstone, November/December 1980.
You need to understand that the Deseret News in Utah is not your normal newspaper. It's owned by the Mormon church. Therefore, Mormon journalists and Mormon editors in a published piece paid for by Mormon tithe-givers to Lds, Inc. were furnishing propaganda on behalf of Nazis and Hitler!
An example of Mormon CHURCH funished pro-Nazi propaganda:
From the column: Early in the article, Clark writes, ominously, that religious freedom flourishes in Nazi Germany, except for a few sects (which) have been prohibited or restricted. We can guess at least one people of faith persecuted in Hitlers Germany at that time the Jews. And this leads to the most disturbing part of Clarks national hagiography: finding a missionary moment in Nazi Germanys persecution of Jews. After detailing previous difficulties to get access to Germanys archives to do genealogy, Clark writes, Now, due to the importance given to the racial question, and the almost necessity of proving that ones grandmother was not a Jewess, the old record books have been dusted off and stand ready and waiting for use. No questions are asked. In fact some of the Saints instead of being refused by the pastors now have received letters of encouragement complimenting them for their patriotism.
From the column: Clarks effusive cheerleading for Nazism is a dark moment in LDS history. But, as mentioned, it is history, delivered in a blunt, pure fashion. It underscores the enabling that many organizations, religious or otherwise, used to have a presence in the heart of evil. Church President Heber J. Grant, no doubt worried about persecution Mormons might receive, urged members in Germany in 1937 to get along and not cause problems. Another disturbing example as late as 1939 of Mormon enabling of Nazism was remarks in a Nazi media organ written by West German LDS mission president, Alfred C. Rees. Like Clark, Rees enthusiastically compared Nazism with Mormonism.
Hmm...a Mormon "enthusiastically compared Nazism with Mormonism."
To be fair, Christianity neglected to fully respond to the Nazi threat in the 1930s. Still, clarion calls existed in the U.S. to oppose the Nazis. A good example is E. Stanley Jones' 1937 book, The Choice Before Us. (Jones was a Methodist missionary to India who worked inter-denominationally to some degree)
A real coincidence in timing of your remark, given that Mormon columnist Doug Gibson published this two days ago!
In the ‘30’s all sorts of groups were enamored of the Soviets (New York Times) and of Nazi Germany. Take Lindbergh as an example too. I’m not dismissing the LDS on the Nazi’s but you have to understand the times. Pretty much the whole world was amazed on how Germany rebuilt itself under Hitler. We can look back and shake our heads on how could they be so stupid as to embrace what went on then. I’m not defending the LDS on this. Again, you have to look at the environment at the time.
The Mormon concept of becoming gods and Hitler’s concept of beoming Übermensch (supermen) are not very dissimilar.
mormon guy wrote the article about mormons - bull? Not so much.
There were Mormons complicit in supporting the Nazis. However, they were a very small minority in a German nation that was about 55% Protestant and 35% Catholic. Even more to shame, there were thousands of men of partial (one-quarter to one-half) Jewish ancestry who served in the German armed forces during World War II, a few even holding the rank of general.
And look at how the same people were enamored with Obama. Pretty much the whole world was amazed and even fainting at the feet of this international idiot. We can look back and shake our heads after the Flavor-Aid has worn off and ask how they have been so stupid to embrace that empty suit and ignore his troubling past and current friends and allies.
Exactly. People seventy years from now will wonder how the world was enamored over Obama. He got the Nobel before he even did anything. It’s amazing how stupid people can be over someone.
What exactly is “bull crap”?
For those who would questiont his, just click. (It pulls up the article itself)
Given the nearly fatal consequences of collectivism in the Plymouth Colony and the Jamestown Colony, one would think America had long ago learned its lesson regarding collectivism (”community” as William Bradford called it).
One would think wrongly, unfortunately.
“The Mormon concept of becoming gods and Hitlers concept of beoming Übermensch (supermen) are not very dissimilar.”
One need not look back in history or religion to find delusions of grandeur.
Many ‘crats and cops suffer such delusions. And, let’s not forget educators, AgencyPerson trough feeders, ad nauseam.
Obviously too many were "entranced" with Hitler and Nazism.
The article goes further, though. Take this part: After detailing previous difficulties to get access to Germanys archives to do genealogy, Clark writes, Now, due to the importance given to the racial question, and the almost necessity of proving that ones grandmother was not a Jewess, the old record books have been dusted off and stand ready and waiting for use. No questions are asked. In fact some of the Saints instead of being refused by the pastors now have received letters of encouragement complimenting them for their patriotism.
Obviously in 1933 it had not yet rose to the persecution of 1938 and then what followed with the holocaust in the years after. Yet this statement by the Mormon church was still racist (what they referenced as "the racial question.") Why would distinguishing the races to such an emphasis be deemed "patriotic" by the Mormon church.
No matter what you say about the current of the times, nobody was holding a gun to the Mormon church's head in 1933, forcing them either to make racist-claims-as- patriotism or even to run the propaganda piece at all!
I understand that. All I was saying was at the time in the 1930’s people were enamored of what was happening in Europe. This was before Germany had its concentration camps for Jews. I am not defending the LDS in this. All I’m saying is that was the way people saw Germany.
What an absurd comment. He's reading a 1933 publication. I guess it's "amazing" that someone would bother to dig back into 1933 to find something to complain about, but it's hardly surprising to read something nice about Hitler from 1933.
Does the author remember that we actually had an Olympics in Germany in 1932? We were long away from the war, from the otrocities, from the knowledge of what Hitler really was. Even the Catholic church wasn't screaming about the evils of Hitler in 1933.
I'm sure we would fire the editor of the "LDS Church News" today, if he wasn't dead and buried along with Hitler, the 2nd world war, the depression, and a host of other things from the 1930s.
Maybe next week the author can write a scathing editorial about Howard Hughes.
As I recall Winston Churchill “praised” Hitler circa 1936 saying in effect that If England had the same difficulties he hoped a man like Hitler would arise.
Joe Kennedy Sr., Charles Lindberg and Leo Penn all praised Mister Hitler. In fact Lindberg was supposed to make a major speech at the Boston Garden on December 8, 1941.
It was cancelled.
Praising Hitler in 1933, is just a tad different than praising him in 1941, don’cha think?
I can say unequivocally that was NOT Churchill....Churchill was the lone voice in the wilderness, as early as 1934, warning a war-weary Britain of the threat of Hitler.
So did the New Youk Slimes.
“LDS Church, through Church News, praised Hitler, Nazi Germany”
So did the New Youk Slimes.
I’d even be willing to bet that in 1933, there were Jews praising Hitler, because they probably figured Hitler was only going to go after the “bad” Jews.
This is just a hit piece, regardless of who wrote it.
And we know how racism had been wiped out in all other faiths by 1933, so this is clearly an outrageous abberation by this apostate religion of mormonism.
Seriously, again, history is a fun topic and the author should study it some to understand context. Our own country had yet to go through it's civil rights period.
“... He said that if he had been an Italian he would have been a Fascist, and as late as 1938 he stated that if England were ever in the same straits that Germany had been in 1933, he hoped that England would find “her Hitler.” The eminent Anglo-American publicist, Francis Neilson, declared that Churchill’s praise of Hitler was the most extreme tribute ever paid by a prominent Englishman to the head of a foreign state....” This was from an Article by Barnes. I found it on google by entering Churchill praises Hitler. Barnes was a professor of Sociology who gained noteriety as an historical “revisionist” who claimed FDR knew that Japan was going to hit Pearl Harbor.
One of the great ‘faith promoting rumors’ of Mormonism is that Mormons were killed by Nazi’s. In fact, the opposite is true. Long after most Christians began to fight the Nazis the Mormons worked hand in hand with them with many leaders even in the SS.
"Helmuth Hubener, who died a martyr at 17, tortured and beheaded in 1942 for belonging to an anti-Nazi group and publishing anti-Nazi leaflets. Hubener, who is the subject of a Gunter Grass novel, was first repulsed by Nazism as a boy when he witnessed anti-Semitism in his local ward. Hubener was quickly excommunicated by local authorities.
Mark my words, american patriots. The day will surely come when LDS "prophets" tell mormons to disarm and submit to tyranny, and they will. Then they will turn in those they know did not disarm. Do not trust them.
There were Mormons complicit in supporting the Nazis. However, they were a very small minority in a German nation
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Ah, but it wasn’t a SMALL MINORITY of Mormons who supported Hitler. The professor who introduced me to Mormonism (and baptized me LDS as well), served a mission in Germany just after WWII. He proudly relayed how the Nazi supporters were the easiest to convert to Mormonism, because it was a ‘white’ religion and the idea of Indians becoming ‘white and delight-some’ appealed to them. According to him, and a couple of his missionary companions that I met, the former Nazi’s saw in Mormonism a spiritual version of Hitler’s policies.
Yesterday our representatives passed a bill that our president will sign that authorizes the "disappearing" of US citizens.
No tyrant in the history of the world, not Hitler, not Tito, not Polt Pot, not Stalin or Mao did anything worse than "disappearing" people.
How close is this to what Obama's regime wants to do in the USA, and, the media is totally silent on this. Imagine what the outcry from those liberal media types such as Chris Matthews would be screaming.
“The military form a four-man junta headed by Pinochet and composed of the commanders-in-chief of the army, navy, air force and police and embark on a campaign to remove the influence of the UP from all social institutions.
A state of siege is declared, martial law is introduced and parliament is closed. The media is censored, universities are purged, books are burned, Marxist political parties are outlawed and union activities are banned. Thousands are murdered or “disappeared”. Thousands more are jailed or forced to leave the country. Torture is commonplace. Up to one million will flee into self-imposed exile.
It is reported that up to 250,000 people are detained in the first months following the coup. Stadiums, military bases and naval vessels have to be used as short-term prisons. At least five new prison camps are established for political prisoners.”
How about the East German Stasi?
“The house or apartment of those who were suspected of anti-state activities were searched while the suspect was away. If someone was seriously suspected of anti-state behaviour, agents would usually appear at their place of work and disappear, perhaps for years . The Stasi was directly linked to the KGB and sent it information until 1990. There had been an estimated 85,000 full time Stasi agents and 109,000 private informers and an estimated 1 to 2 million east Germans had served as Stasi agents at one time or another .The Stasi left behind a staggering 2 trillion pages of reports . Most were hand written, as the Stasi distrusted computers . The colloquial name for the Stasi was Zur Firma (The Firm).”
Remember that the Soviet Union’s security apparatus would abduct their own citizens and have them committed to a psychiatric gulag or a slave labor camp with many dying during their “reeducation” or “rehabilitation.”
Hitler made any one who disagreed with him disappear into the forced labor camps. Six million Jews were murdedered but another six million non-Jews were, also, because they opposed him or were undesirable in some other way.
Tyrants will either quietly make people disappear or use more obvious forms to crush dissent and disagreement. What we see with Obama and the rest in the District of Criminals is bringing back the old ways.
Stalin is quoted as saying,
“No man, no problem.”
The Soviet Union made to disappear (murder) about 65 million of its citizens during its reign of terror. China is at least another 65 million.
It’s more common than you think or realize. After they disappear a citizen they just edit them out of photos, video, government files, etc.
I have been told that Mormons deny the holocaust..
any truth in this ???
I have never heard nor seen this....but I'm sure FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Brigham Young would have had an opinion if he had been around that long.
"I would rather undertake to convert five thousand Lamanites [native Americans], than to convert one of those poor miserable creatures [Jews] whose fathers killed the savior... Yes, I would rather undertake to convert the devil himself, if it were possible... I would say, leave them, and come home, the Lord does not require you to stay there, for they must suffer and be damned... [L]eave them to live and die in their sins and ignorance... [T]hey take pleasure in their wickedness..." (FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 2, p. 143, 1854)
I’ll add that to my wish list. Thanks!
I haven’t see anything like that.
I used to wonder how could a Hitler happen; the older I get the more I understand. The desire to escape from freedom into the security of slavery is almost endemic to humans, being the rule more than the exception.
What inspires me now are the outliers such as Hubener, about whom I had not heard until this article:
>>>Hubeners final words to the judges who sentenced him to die, Wait. Your turn will come.
I intend to find out more about him.
Chuck, I never can understand the origin re: some of your jaded comments you make at times...like this one.
What do I mean in this particular case?
Well, let's compare a few timelines between 1933 and say, oh, I don't know, let's try 1994...
(#1) South Africa held on to racist Apartheid as official policy into 1994...
(#2) The heyday of OPEN race-based conflict was when the U.S. Civil Rights Movement brought out into the world's limelight what had been there all along...events such as Selma, AL (1965), The March on DC (1963), the way the first black student at the University of Mississippi was treated (1962-1963)...when students would intentionally bounce basketballs above James Meredith's room @ all hours of the night...or students in the cafeteria would get up from his table if he sat down there...and then also the Montgomery Bus Boycott (1955-1956).
(#3) Then we come to this article's particular focus: Racism vs. Jews (1933).
Now let's say it was 1993-1994...
...And you saw a letter to the editor from somebody in South Alabama critiquing open racism in South Africa.
Tell us, Chuck, would you try to rain on that parade? Would you get on your high horse and write a letter to the editor addressed to that person, saying: "Boy, you've got the nerve. 'And we know how racism had been wiped out in' the U.S. by the early 1960s, 'so this' [Apartheid] 'is clearly an outrageous abberation by' freedom lovers like you"?????
Would you? Would you attempt to negate real concerns and real expressions about apartheid racism in the 1990s by attempting to import another culture (U.S.) from a recent time frame (up through at least 1960s)...?
...(a) implying that any U.S. citizen complaining about racist policies in South Africa had zero ground to complain -- given that the complaints were coming less than 30 years after open racist behavior in the U.S...
...(b) and even worse, Chuck, such a similar parallel comment would almost come across as someone either defending apartheid -- or at least trying to take the edge off of critiquing it.
See, Chuck? That's what you've attempted to do: You've upchucked upon 1933 racism by implicating & importing racism from (at least) the 1960s...via your use of sarcasm.
And likewise to my parallel example, it comes across as you either defending that 1933 expression of Mormon racism -- or, at the very least -- attempting to take the edge off of its critique!
And I contend that somebody speaking seriously about apartheid racism in the early 1990s could face similar CharlesWayneCT sarcasm re: a similar +-30-year extension approach.
I guess a good chunk of U.S. citizens held no right to complain about apartheid, then, eh Chuck? (Especially if they lived in the South). Is that your 'takeaway' lesson lecture for the day?
I mean, it's either that, or you actually are defending what the Mormons said about Jews in 1933 Germany!
Yup; TIMING is EVERYTHING!!!
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,
"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.
According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parentson the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
Nazis then; Muzzies now: What's the big deal??
Ain't it though!!
No tyrant in the history of the world, not Hitler, not Tito, not Polt Pot, not Stalin or Mao did anything worse than "disappearing" people.
We Americans are SO sophisticated that we make 'em disappear before they are born. At the rate of about 1,000,000+ per year.
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