REVISED LIST OF CONGREGATIONS VOTING TO LEAVE THE ELCA SINCE AUGUST 2009

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[rhema]

We recently made extensive revisions to this list. As of January 1, 2012 we show 616 congregations that have successfully taken the required two votes to leave the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. Another 31 congregations have successfully taken one sucessful vote to date. The total members lost to the ELCA from these congregations stands at 313,799.

PLEASE INFORM US OF ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT SHOULD BE MADE TO THIS LIST.

ALASKA 1**
** St. Paul Lutheran Church, Kodiak NALC

ARIZONA 10**

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[rhema]

The official church emigrations (not counting the myriad individuals, families, and sizable church populations that have left without voting or without achieving the required 67 percent):

As of January 1, 2012 we show 616 congregations that have successfully taken the required two votes to leave the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. Another 31 congregations have successfully taken one sucessful vote to date. The total members lost to the ELCA from these congregations stands at 313,799.

[rzman21]

My parents’ ELCA parish could join them in the next year or so.

[Bryanw92]

I can’t get the web site to load. It pops up and then goes to white screen. Can someone post the Florida congregations, please?

[Bryanw92]

Never mind. I got it working.

[lightman]

Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Christ is in our midst!

[Brad’s Gramma]

VERY good news...

Question ... are they going to change Synods and if so, which one seems to be their most “popular”?

[MinuteGal]

The web site doesn't load for me, either.

I also would like to see the list for Florida.

Leni

[Brad’s Gramma]

FLORIDA 13**
** Advent Lutheran Church, Boca Raton
** Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran, Dade City LCMC
** St. Peter Lutheran Church, Fort Pierce LCMC
** Shepherd of Woods Church, Jacksonville LCMC
** Faith Lutheran Church, Lakeland LCMC
** Living Word Lutheran Church, Lantana LCMC
** Hope Lutheran Church, Miami LCMC
** Principe de Paz Lutheran Church, Miami LCMC
** Peace Lutheran Church, Palm Bay LCMC
** St. John Lutheran Church, Palatka LCMC
** Peace Lutheran Church, Port Charlotte
** Trinity Lutheran Church, Titusville LCMC
** First Lutheran Church , West Palm Beach NALC
Note: Although St. Peter Lutheran of Fort Pierce voted unanimously to withdraw, the ELCA will not allow them to leave with their property.

[MinuteGal]

Thanks, Gram...phooey, the ELCA church in my little town on the central Gulf coast wasn't on the list.....and it's a convenient couple blocks away.

Leni

[Brad’s Gramma]

Drats.

I’m sorry to hear that...

[lightman]

About 2/3 of the departing congregations have affiliated with Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ (LCMC); a few have made dual affiliation with LCMC and the North American Lutheran Churcb (NALC). About 1/3 have affiliated with the NALC.

It is very significant to note that these departures have decreased the number of ELCA congregations to slightly UNDER 10,000—about 9,961 if I recall correctly. A psychological threshold has been crossed indicating that the “glory years” have passed.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Thanks! Are those two synods conservative?

[rzman21]

Why do they need to form new Lutheran denominations considering that the LCMS, WELS, and host of smaller Lutheran denominations already exist?

[Brad’s Gramma]

Personally... I totally agree with you...

[lightman]

Both are more conservative than the ELCA but more liberal than the WELS and LC-MS in that both Ordain women.

The spectrum, from most conservative to most liberal is roughly:

WELS - LC-MS - NALC - LCMC - ELCA.

Perhaps NALC and LCMC should be listed one above the other. I listed NALC as more conservative in that it affirms the office of Bishop (mainly as a teaching theologian, not an administrator/CEO) while the LCMC is very decentralized and congregationalist in polity.

[rzman21]

So would it be fair to say that the NALC and LCMC are more Pietistic than the LCMS and WELS?

[lightman]

So would it be fair to say that the NALC and LCMC are more Pietistic than the LCMS and WELS?

That depends...LCMS is hardly monolithic these days, with its "Ablaze" movement and emphasis on "seeker worship" containing a very broad pietistic streak.

If you consider the dominant mark of Pietism to be a passion for souls, then NALC is definitely pietistic, especially through the influence of the Ethiopian Mekana Jesu church.

If you consider the dominant mark of Pietism to be anti-clericalism.

I've pinged this to an LCMS Pastor in hopes that he will weigh in.

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[rzman21]

That depends...LCMS is hardly monolithic these days, with its “Ablaze” movement and emphasis on “seeker worship” containing a very broad pietistic streak.

If you consider the dominant mark of Pietism to be a passion for souls, then NALC is definitely pietistic, especially through the influence of the Ethiopian Mekana Jesu church.

If you consider the dominant mark of Pietism to be anti-clericalism.

I’ve pinged this to an LCMS Pastor in hopes that he will weigh in.

>>My understanding has been that the Pietists pretty much junked the Lutheran confessions and began the process of blurring the lines with the Calvinists.

I’ve understood Pietism to emphasize feelings over doctrine. The Lutheranism I was taught as a kid was hardly Confessional Lutheranism.

I didn’t really know what Confessional Lutheran was until I got to college and started reading when I got sandwiched between Catholicism on one side and Evangelicalism on the other.

I was content to be an “Evangelical Catholic” until I idealistically wrote Bishop Chilstrom at ELCA headquarters, and he wrote me back with a very negative letter regarding the differences between the ELCA and the Catholic Church.