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Mitt's Mormon Army: How It Works
BuzzFeed ^ | February 3, 2012 | McKay Coppins

Posted on 02/04/2012 6:53:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Jim Robinson
B T T T ! ! ! ©

281 posted on 02/04/2012 7:54:55 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; RFEngineer

DJ is right Romney will be controlled by his LDS religion. No one here is saying that Mormons don’t have freedom to worship, but we also have the freedom to speak against Mormonism and warn others as well as the freedom to consider religious views in who we vote for or how we vote.

That is VERY American. Your attempt at silencing us RFE is what is un-American.


282 posted on 02/04/2012 7:59:42 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: DJ MacWoW
Ditto's!
283 posted on 02/04/2012 8:00:04 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: reaganaut; vox_freedom

Thank you. :-)


284 posted on 02/04/2012 8:04:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: PapaBear3625; Elsie

The JWs may have their church hierarchy disapprove, but any JW that decides to run would not face GOVERNMENT prohibition.

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And there is no government prohibition against Romney running (although Utah did have a prohibition against any non-mormon running at one time).

Since JWs do not participate in politics, any JW who would run for office would be disfellowshiped (their excommunication) and be shunned so in essence they would not be considered JWs anymore.


285 posted on 02/04/2012 8:05:08 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: reaganaut

THX 1138


286 posted on 02/04/2012 8:25:09 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: reaganaut; RFEngineer
I have no intentions of voting for Romney but is has to do with his fake Conservative credentials and his inability to stand for anything. But if, for example, Romney was more like Orrin Hatch or to the right of him, would he then be acceptable? I kinda see RFEngineer's side on this. If a truly Conservative candidate was Mormon and running, could we support him? I totally disagree that Mormonism is Christian in any way and it IS a cult, but would having a Mormon as President really allow the Mormon hierarchy to essentially run the country? Wouldn't he still be bound by the laws and the Constitution?

I know people had the same concerns when John Kennedy was running. They were concerned that he would take orders from the Pope. But that did not happen - we know now that he was a Catholic in Name Only (CINO) - but I don't see how any religious leadership could take control of this country by having their own Manchurian candidate. It won't be like he can enact or mandate religious edicts or anything like that, right?

Again, let me clarify, I am totally against Mitt Romney for the Republican nominee because he is NOT a real Conservative, he is NOT Pro-life and he has no real defining standards that would make him a good president for America. But it is NOT because he is a Mormon. That is a totally different consideration for me.

287 posted on 02/04/2012 9:10:03 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums; RFEngineer; svcw; ansel12; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; humblegunner; All

If a truly Conservative candidate was Mormon and running, could we support him?

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I could not and many others coult not as well. I know where their loyalties really lie, what they really believe and how they really view ‘gentiles’ and what their plans really are to ever vote for one. EVER.

At least one Mormon US congress critter has already admitted that he passed earmarks and laws specifically to benefit the LDS church. A POTUS would take that even further. Their goal has always been a theocracy even if it is subtle and it will be used for the glory and benefit of the Mormon cult.

I cannot and will not separate a man from his religion. His worldview determines who he is and being a Mormon shows he has no discernment.

I get sick of the comparison of Romney to JFK as if it is the same issue. JFK didn’t ask the Pope (who resides in Europe) to run. Mitt did ask his prophet (who he swore allegiance to under penalty of death and operates in the US) for permission to run.


288 posted on 02/04/2012 9:52:42 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: Jim Robinson
Amen.
289 posted on 02/04/2012 9:57:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: boatbums
If a truly Conservative candidate was Mormon and running, could we support him?

There has never been one, it appears that it is impossible to have such a thing, so why waste time playing Mormon games.

290 posted on 02/04/2012 10:03:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: reaganaut

Your comment about the NV congrssman is interesting.
My lds uncle’s wife has cousins who are heavy in lds and are office holders in NV (also all democrats) and she has told me that all they do in office is to benefit SLC lds.
((((sigh))))


291 posted on 02/04/2012 10:05:09 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: reaganaut
Okay. Thanks. I would not be able to vote for an atheist, a Scientologist, a Muslim or any other non-Christian person because of what it says about their discernment - just as you stated. I believe the Founders understood that only those who were in submission to the Creator could handle a government system that depended upon their own character. Those who do not believe they answer to God, do not have what it takes to be leaders of such a country as America with all its freedoms. Christianity is NOT just another religion - as if there were no differences. It is THE truth because it follows THE Truth, THE Life and THE Way, Jesus Christ.

Just out of curiosity, though, what do you think of Orrin Hatch? According to WikiAnswers, there are currently thirteen Mormons serving in Congress. They haven't taken over the country so far. Do you think a Mormon President would take advantage of this? Would they all follow his agenda? Even the Democrats?

292 posted on 02/04/2012 10:09:21 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
I know people had the same concerns when John Kennedy was running. They were concerned that he would take orders from the Pope. But that did not happen - we know now that he was a Catholic in Name Only (CINO)

JFK did better with Protestants than a Democrat Presidential candidate had done in a dozen years, JFK was not a Cardinal in the Catholic church as Romney has been in Mormonism, JFK did not meet with the Pope privately to ask for permission to run for President as Bishop Romney did.

JFK was not part of Prophecy as many in the Mormon cult believe that Bishop Romney is.

293 posted on 02/04/2012 10:12:55 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12
There has never been one, it appears that it is impossible to have such a thing, so why waste time playing Mormon games.

I'm not playing Mormon games, believe me! It really was an honest question. The only Conservative Mormons I know about are Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett and Glenn Beck. The first two are already in Congress. Like I said, it was a genuine question I was wondering about.

294 posted on 02/04/2012 10:16:22 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: reaganaut
I refuse to make a Hobson's Choice!

That is exactly how we got stuck with Jack Kennedy, Dick Nixon, Jerry Ford, Jimmy Carter, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and the Wee Wee.

If the Pubs nominate Mittens, then I will seek a suitable third party candidate, and if none presents, I simply will not vote.

If that results in the reelection of the Wee Wee, then we will see our nation's decline completed sooner rather than later with clearer linkage to liberalism than ever.

Under no circumstances will I ever stand before my Maker and explain that I supported a cultist, death panel, pagan, baby-killer because he was the lesser of two evils.

295 posted on 02/04/2012 10:20:03 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: boatbums
If a truly Conservative candidate was Mormon and running, could we support him?

There has never been one, it appears impossible for one to exist, the tea party wanted to defeat Hatch, and Bennett wasn't conservative, why play this game?

296 posted on 02/04/2012 10:33:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: boatbums
Again, let me clarify, I am totally against Mitt Romney for the Republican nominee because he is NOT a real Conservative, he is NOT Pro-life and he has no real defining standards that would make him a good president for America. But it is NOT because he is a Mormon. That is a totally different consideration for me.

You got it EXACTLY right here!

But there are MORMONs who IGNORE all of the political baggage and WILL vote for Mitt just because he is MORMON.

EXACTLY like a lot of BLACKS did with Obama. That is the FLIP side of this coin.

297 posted on 02/05/2012 4:13:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: boatbums
...because of what it says about their discernment ...
298 posted on 02/05/2012 4:15:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: boatbums
According to WikiAnswers, there are currently thirteen Mormons serving in Congress. They haven't taken over the country so far.

According to math, there are currently 522 NON-Mormons serving in Congress.

They have taken the country VERY far!

299 posted on 02/05/2012 4:17:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Zakeet
Under no circumstances will I ever stand before my Maker and explain that I supported a cultist, death panel, pagan, baby-killer because he was the lesser of two evils.



300 posted on 02/05/2012 4:24:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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