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To: wagglebee; allmendream; Agamemnon; metmom; betty boop; trisham; spirited irish
The Hitler quotes you are getting are irrelevant or misleading. One who controls the dictionary controls the debate. For instance, unborn children are obsessively called "fetuses" which dehumanizes them. So a liberal can say "for the children" as long as "children" means to the public what he intends, relegating fetuses to subhuman status.

Consider the philosopher Alfred Rosenberg who inspired the racial attitudes of Nazi Germany. He was anti-Christian and a supporter of Positive Christianity as a step to the ultimate goal of a Reich Church.

Some Nazi leaders, such as Martin Bormann, were anti-Christian and sympathetic to Rosenberg.[34] Once in power, however, Hitler and most Nazi leaders sought to unify the Christian denominations in favor of "positive Christianity." They privately complained about Rosenberg's radical, openly anti-Christian views[citation needed]; they also did not support small neo-pagan groups that were seeking parity with Christianity, which Rosenberg encouraged. However, Goebbels and Hitler both agreed that after the Endsieg (Final Victory) the Reich Church should be pressed into evolving into a German social evolutionist organisation proclaiming the cult of race, blood and battle, instead of Redemption and the Ten Commandments of Moses, which they deemed outdated and Jewish.[35]

Wikipedia on Rosenberg

Positive Christianity (German: Positives Christentum) was a movement within Nazi Germany which blended ideas of racial purity with Christian doctrine. It was adopted as part of the official party doctrine at the NSDAP congress in 1920 to express a worldview which was Christian, non-confessional, vigorously opposed to the spirit of "Jewish Materialism", and oriented to the principle of voluntary association of those with a common racial-ethnic background.[1]

Wikipedia on Positive Christianity

According to Rosenberg's well received and politically convenient philosophy, those who did not have Nordic traits, e.g. Jews and Hungarians, were deemed untermensch following eugenicist Lothrop Stoddard's teaching. The term means "sub human."

They were not killing humans by this philosophy just like abortionists think they are not killing humans.


171 posted on 02/22/2012 10:40:10 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Agamemnon; metmom; betty boop; trisham; spirited irish
How very true dear sister in Christ!

It is quite easy to justify killing the innocent when they are simply defined as something other than human beings.

Ironically, the Bible makes NO ALLOWANCE for different "species" of man, there are the Chosen People of God, but they aren't any "more human" than those not chosen.

Therefore, belief in "subhumans" or other such nonsense REQUIRES a person to accept Darwinian evolutionary thinking.

173 posted on 02/22/2012 10:54:27 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Alamo-Girl
“A fox will always remain a fox” is neither irrelevant or misleading to the FACT that Hitler believed in fixed kinds, as is typical of Creationists.

“the highest image of God” is neither irrelevant or misleading to the FACT that Hitler believed mankind was CREATED in the image of God, as is typical of Creationists.

What is very relevant and very illustrative - is that the author of this article couldn't make it a single paragraph into his illogical argument of guilt by association and appeal to consequences without a BIG FAT UGLY LIE.

But go ahead and defend the BIG FAT UGLY LIE.

It speaks volumes about the honesty and integrity of Creationists.

174 posted on 02/22/2012 10:55:26 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
They were not killing humans by this philosophy just like abortionists think they are not killing humans.

Nat Hentoff has commented upon how the language used to degrade the humanity of a fetus, and therefore rationalize killing it, is starkly similar to the languaged used to dehumanize the Jews, Slavs and other peoples the Nazis wanted to exterminate.

183 posted on 02/22/2012 11:24:15 AM PST by dirtboy
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