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Irish-American Pols Group Skips Salute to Cardinal Dolan in Disagreement With Church Views
New York Daily News ^ | 2/26/12 | Kenneth Lovett

Posted on 02/27/2012 9:52:16 AM PST by marshmallow

Nod goes from 'no-brainer' to nonstarter after some lawmakers object to Catholic positions on gay marriage and priest sex abuse, Albany group members say

It's not just the folks at the Empire State Building who are snubbing Cardinal Dolan — a group of Irish-American state legislators in Albany have dissed him, too.

A push to make Dolan the guest of honor at the March 12 annual dinner for the New York State American-Irish Legislators Society was squashed amid internal controversy, multiple sources said.

“Dolan was the first one mentioned to honor, given his recent ascension to cardinal, and originally it looked like it was leaning that way,” said one supporter of the idea. “It was a no-brainer.”

But some Assembly Democratic members are said to have balked because of the church’s vehement opposition both to same-sex marriage and a bill to extend the statute of limitations for past victims of sex abuse by priests.

“It was clear there were certain members of the majority who would be unhappy and uncomfortable if the honoree was the cardinal,” a second member of the society said.

It was decided, instead, to honor Brian O’Dwyer, the liberal lawyer .

Several members of the bipartisan group groused that an honoree’s political views shouldn’t be a major consideration.

“We’re an Irish organization,” said one source. “Our guest of honor should be a prominent person in the Irish community.”

Dolan, he said, “is a newly elevated cardinal and he is a fine Irishman and a prominent player on the stage. You can make the argument I disagree with Mr. O’Dwyer’s politics, but I think he’s a fine Irishman and a great honoree — only he should have been next year.”

Assemblyman Michael Cusick (D-Staten Island), the society president, denied Dolan was snubbed

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1 posted on 02/27/2012 9:52:23 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

exactly what is wrong with the north east?

That area should have been the most conservative area in the country with all the supposed Catholics but instead we have a millions of people saying they’re Catholic but they’re loony liberals for homosexuals, cross dressing, mutilating ones self, and men whom think they’re women who then think they’re homosexual woman.

The place is nuts and maybe it’s better for the north east to join Quebec and have their liberal perverted utopia


2 posted on 02/27/2012 9:59:45 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: marshmallow

Idiots. Their loss.


3 posted on 02/27/2012 10:02:37 AM PST by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: marshmallow

and another thing.

This is not about contraception like the left keeps harping on about and the GOP have shut up about , this is about the 1st amendment.

Every church, etc should unite and get muslims, Jews etc and say you’re religion is under attack as well, they will make you ignore your faith.

Idiots up there , truly big idiots who cannot see a bigger picture


4 posted on 02/27/2012 10:09:57 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc

I always wondered the same thing, Manc. How could the bedrock, the cornerstone, the very start of America have turned from its roots into the most corrupt cesspool of liberalism on the north American continent? My guess is that due to the age and the number of people who moved through that area during the start of our nation, corruption settled heavily into specific areas and bled out. I believe Tammany Hall started NYC’s decline; Atlantic City for Jersey; and I’m sure there’s corruption plaguing every corner of Boston, Dover, Albany, Providence, etc.


5 posted on 02/27/2012 10:11:15 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Reo

Who gives a damn what a group of liberals think about Cardinal Dolan. The Church is not changing it’s bibical views to make liberals happy. Been the same way for 2,000 years. Cardinal Dolan is the most prominent Catholic in the United States. I know that in the history of the Church there has never been an American Pope, but don’t count out Cardinal Dolan, he is that well-liked and respected at the Vatican.


6 posted on 02/27/2012 10:14:56 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: marshmallow

“Cusick said Dolan was one of several names recommended, but was not chosen after his staff said the cardinal would be unable to attend.

A Dolan spokesman said Dolan is scheduled to leave Albany that evening for Washington to chair a meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.”

Seems like a simple statement from the Cardinal would clear it all up.

Freegards


7 posted on 02/27/2012 10:15:19 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

How come they didn’t ask Barack O’Bama?


8 posted on 02/27/2012 10:18:36 AM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: marshmallow; SeekAndFind; The Mayor; Sacajaweau; GlockThe Vote; Cicero; Clemenza; ...
Didn't know that there was such a thing as the New York State Irish-American Legislators Society.

My guess is that those opposed to the Cardinal's appearance at their group are 100% Democrats. But of course the NY Daily News article won't say that, because it makes their Party look petty and foolish.

9 posted on 02/27/2012 10:28:30 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: marshmallow

It has been socially and politically advantageous to be a Christian in this country from the beginning.

I predict it will (if it hasn’t already) turn into a distinct liability. That will reveal to everyone who the real Christians are.


10 posted on 02/27/2012 10:41:50 AM PST by DManA
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To: marshmallow

“Irish-American democrats snub Cardinal Dolan over Catholic doctrine”

there. fixed that headline. How proud NY catholics must be of these democrats. Why sure and begorra the Methodists and Episcopalians would love to have them, so why don’t they change churches?


11 posted on 02/27/2012 11:07:38 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: silverleaf

Change churches because the Cardinal’s right? Don’t think so. Stop voting for the Irish pols, and boycott Ireland.


12 posted on 02/27/2012 11:58:31 AM PST by Mach9
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To: Mach9

I’m not Irish, but I AM Catholic - the Cardinal shouldn’t be honored by liars claiming Catholicity when they are in fact anti-catholicity. He should be “out of town” that day if he hasn’t testosterone, and decline with a nudge of Catholic brotherly reaffirmation of Church teaching and eternal damnation on the line.

Morality SHOULD matter. They’re too immoral for him, and think he’s too immoral for them. Who in the hell honors someone you find morally repugnant - and who accepts an honor from a bunch of morrally repugnant folks?

He can sit down and have a private dinner to love and discuss things with them like Jesus anytime.


13 posted on 02/27/2012 12:43:51 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Timothy Cardinal Dolan was atop the list to be guest of honor at the New York State American-Irish Legislators Society dinner on March 12, but squabbling over Catholic Church politics killed the plan, members said.
14 posted on 02/27/2012 3:02:03 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Mach9; All
Stop voting for the Irish pols...

Not all of 'em, only the lefties amongst them.

...boycott Ireland.

Sorry, I don't see the connection between these Irish American politicians whose families probably came here in the 19th century, and the current nation of Ireland.

15 posted on 02/27/2012 3:12:29 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Mach9; All
Stop voting for the Irish pols...

Not all of 'em, only the lefties amongst them.

...boycott Ireland.

Sorry, I don't see the connection between these Irish American politicians whose families probably came here in the 19th century, and the current nation of Ireland.

16 posted on 02/27/2012 3:12:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Mach9
Don’t think so. Stop voting for the Irish pols, and boycott Ireland.

One group of democrats do not speak for Ireland, American Irish, or even American Irish pols.

Dolan's Irish by blood too.

17 posted on 02/27/2012 3:20:56 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Stop Romney - Rick Santorum in the Michigan primary)
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To: manc
The place is nuts and maybe it’s better for the north east to join Quebec and have their liberal perverted utopia

Quebec is overwhelmingly Catholic, something on the order of 75%.

18 posted on 02/27/2012 3:50:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Night Hides Not

One of the Black Irish, I think?


19 posted on 02/27/2012 4:43:50 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: marshmallow
Assemblyman Michael Cusick (D-Staten Island), the society president, denied Dolan was snubbed

Yeah, right. From the comments in the story, it's very CLEAR he was snubbed because he is a strong voice for the Catholic Church, with which those Irish Democrats disagree.

20 posted on 02/27/2012 5:31:41 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RegulatorCountry

The Church in Quebec jumped ship years ago.


21 posted on 02/28/2012 10:05:01 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Darren McCarty

As am I (a whole contingent of blood), but he’s not a pol—except as required of a cardinal which may be a whole lot more than he’s prepared to admit. I don’t want him to be a martyr though; I want him to win.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 6:47:39 PM PST by Mach9
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