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Christian Scriptures, Jewish Commentary
Catholic World Report ^ | March 6, 2012 | Carl Olson

Posted on 03/06/2012 3:23:10 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 03/06/2012 3:23:17 PM PST by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 03/06/2012 3:24:00 PM PST by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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Thanks for this — I’m making a note to get it! :)


3 posted on 03/06/2012 3:31:32 PM PST by maryz
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Interesting. I go to a lot of their sources when I dig already.

FYI: I don’t know if you’ve listened to talks at Hebrew Catholic:

http://hebrewcatholic.org/Studies/MysteryofIsraelChurch/mysteryofisraela.html

Someone at the Institute for Catholic Culture turned me on to it a while back re: salvation history and prophecy.


4 posted on 03/06/2012 3:47:33 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. God's will be done. Abortion leaves two victims, the mother and the child.)
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I have read Roy Schoeman's book Salvation is from the Jews and exchanged a few emails with him.
5 posted on 03/06/2012 4:32:55 PM PST by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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A number of the folks at my synagogue are very high on this, I think since A.J.Levine was a shared "scholar in residence" with neighboring churches last year. (I was unfortunately away so I did not participate.)

There are people who call themselves "Jews for Jesus," who strike me as frauds. (The ones I've talked to know next to nothing about Judaism.) But I've met others who refer to themselves as "Messianic Jews," (including in Israel) and they seem to me to be very much Jewish. (If you ask them something offhand about Torah, they know it.) This guy, David H. Stern, strikes me as the latter sort. He has translated the Christian Bible into Jewish English in a way that you probably can only understand if you read it. (E.g. phylacteries are tefillin, etc.) And he has written a companion volume, Jewish New Testament Commentary, which I am also glad I own. (Though I continue to prefer Christian Bible to New Testament.)

ML/NJ

6 posted on 03/06/2012 4:48:58 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: NYer

About $24 from Amazon but check out author’s previous book first.


7 posted on 03/06/2012 5:07:55 PM PST by norton
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To: NYer; All

What a coincidence! I just got my copy in the mail TODAY!


8 posted on 03/06/2012 6:02:39 PM PST by vladimir998
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Unless this is written by Messianic Jews for Messianic Jews what possible use is it? Why would anyone use a bible commentary written by unregenerate people? Talk about useless.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 1:26:17 AM PST by circlecity
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There’s nothing anti-Jewish in the New Testament, so why is there a perception it has to be clarified?

How exactly are they clarifying the resurrection?


10 posted on 03/07/2012 2:30:21 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: circlecity

Considering he entire Bible was written by Jews, why is additional Jewish commentary required? Jesus Christ Himself is King of the Jews.


11 posted on 03/07/2012 2:32:20 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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"Considering he entire Bible was written by Jews,"

Except for the books of Luke and Acts.

12 posted on 03/07/2012 4:47:43 AM PST by circlecity
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Unless this is written by Messianic Jews for Messianic Jews what possible use is it? Why would anyone use a bible commentary written by unregenerate people? Talk about useless.

The person to ask is vladimir998 who, according to his post directly above yours, just received his copy in the mail. Look forward to the response :-)

13 posted on 03/07/2012 5:24:41 AM PST by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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You wrote:

“Unless this is written by Messianic Jews for Messianic Jews what possible use is it? Why would anyone use a bible commentary written by unregenerate people? Talk about useless.”

No, it’s useful. I have only paged through it at this point - I just got it yesterday afterall - but I know it could be quite useful. The footnotes are filled with fascinating details and references to dozens of ancient Jewish documents. There are also a number of essays, tables, and a glossary.

I do not expect to learn doctrine from it - it’s written by “unregenerate people” as you say. I do, however, expect that I will learn quite a good deal about the cultural and historical contexts of the New Testament.

By the way, I do not assume that “Messianic Jews” would necessarily produce something much better than any good study Bible already out there. Messianic Jews are just Protestants with Judaizing tendencies. If I want the fullness of understaning about Christianity I first go to Catholic and Orthodox commentaries.


14 posted on 03/07/2012 5:51:03 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Cvengr

See post 14.


15 posted on 03/07/2012 5:52:18 AM PST by vladimir998
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"No, it’s useful. I have only paged through it at this point - I just got it yesterday afterall - but I know it could be quite useful. The footnotes are filled with fascinating details and references to dozens of ancient Jewish documents. There are also a number of essays, tables, and a glossary."

So, it's essentially a book of ancient Jewish history and culture organized by bible verses. I can see the utility of that. What contemporary sources do they use other than Joesephus, Philo and the Mishnah?

16 posted on 03/07/2012 6:01:09 AM PST by circlecity
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The list of abbreviations for the sources used is 7 pages long. You’ll have to look at it. Go to Amazon. Type in the title of the book. Open the “Search Inside This Book” feature. Type in “List of Abbreviations” at the “Search inside this Book” box and you’ll see a list of all the ancient the sources used.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 7:21:03 AM PST by vladimir998
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An interesting project. Don't want to get into disputes, but the Jewish Study Bible is based on JPS translations, I've actually gifted it on a couple occasions to Christians who wanted to read Jewish translations of the Tanakh. Not commentary. So in my mind Brettler is credible. As to commentary, in the JSB commentary isn't much more than long footnotes. Since vladimir998 has an copy of this book, I'd be curious if that's the case here as well. As to those who comment what's the point, or to who, I kind of agree, but there's always value in these projects.

18 posted on 03/07/2012 4:06:31 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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Bmarked


19 posted on 03/07/2012 7:12:38 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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Jewish Annotated New Testament (Oxford University Press, 2011), marks the first time, as the volume’s Preface states, “that Jewish scholars have annotated and written essays on the complete New Testament.”

And the work of David Stern is chopped liver ?

The Complete Jewish Bible &
Jewish New Testament Commentary
from fifteen years ago.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
20 posted on 03/07/2012 8:11:51 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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