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Starbucks Blows Off its Pro-Family Customers
The Christian Diarist ^ | March 26, 2012 | JP

Posted on 03/26/2012 11:21:01 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Starbucks held its annual shareholders meeting last week, during which the Seattle-based coffee company affirmed that support for same-sex marriage is one of its core values.

Following the meeting, the National Organization of Marriage announced a “Dump Starbucks” protest campaign.

“The majority of Americans,” said NOM President Brian Brown, “believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. They will not be pleased to learn that their money is being used to advance gay marriage in society.”

Brown’s remarks, and NOM’s protest campaign, fomented predictable yelps of outrage from the LGBTQIA (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, Intersex, Aesexual) community, which considers opposition to same-sex marriage prima facie evidence of bigotry.

But it also elicited unexpected criticism from certain leaders within the evangelical community, who think that Christians ought not join NOM’s protest campaign.

“It’s not that I’m saying a boycott in and of itself is always evil or wrong,” blogged Dr. Russell Moore, Dean of the School of Theology and Senior Vice President for Academic Administration at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky.

“It’s just that, in this case (and many like it),” he continued, a boycott exposes us to our worst tendencies. Christians are tempted, again and again, to fight live the devil to please the Lord.”

Well, I respectfully disagree with Dr. Moore. I believe that NOM, whose stated mission is “to protect marriage and the faith communities that sustain it,” is standing in the gap for those of who are not homophobic, but who believe that God intended marriage to be exclusively between man and woman.

I had no idea Starbucks had waded into the same-sex marriage debate. As a customer, I do not expect the coffee company to embrace my point of view on the issue. I do, however, expect the company to be neutral.

As Brown suggested, I am deeply offended that Starbucks is using the money I have spent on its lattes to support public policy that offends my religious sensibilities. Just as I am deeply offended that the Girl Scouts are in bed with Planned Parenthood, the nation’s leading abortion providers, while they are asking me to buy their cookies.

Well, I am no longer buying Girl Scout cookies, though the girls actually selling the cookies know nothing about the organization’s tacit support for abortion. And I will no longer buy my lattes at Starbucks, though the baristas working there have nothing to with the company’s misguided core values.

Companies like Starbucks, organizations like the Girl Scouts, don’t care if they offend the faith community. That’s why neither will get another dollar from me.


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; boycott; samesexmarriage; starbucks
Starbucks has plenty of politically-neutral competitors. I'll be voting for them with my pocketbook.
1 posted on 03/26/2012 11:21:03 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Let’s see...last month I was supposed to patronize Starbucks because of their stance on gun rights, and this month I’m supposed to boycott them because they support gay marriage.

It could hurt my brain if I let it.


2 posted on 03/26/2012 11:26:10 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Now, I'm really going to have to wonder how they really make their coffee. And where's it's been.
3 posted on 03/26/2012 11:27:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SandyInSeattle

easy for me, I don’t go for overpriced coffee and have my money further their agenda which I do not go along.


4 posted on 03/26/2012 11:32:35 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I have never given them one red cent of my money. I am just one small consumer, but I do care where my money goes. No Starbucks, Ben and Jerrys, Homo Depot, Heinz, Govt. Motors, or Girl Scouts.


5 posted on 03/26/2012 11:41:55 AM PDT by rightly_dividing ("You can not put a gun rack in a Volt")
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I know I am in the minority here, but I honestly don’t give a shit what political stance a company takes. You paid for your latte, the money is no longer yours. It now belongs to Starbucks. They can do whatever they want with their money. If they want to support anything, even if a majority of the country doesn’t agree with them, well, it is a free country. I won’t join the boycott. Might even buy a second coffee just for the heck of it. They are following their conscience. Can’t fault them for that.


6 posted on 03/26/2012 11:45:12 AM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: manc

I quit Starbucks after getting cold coffee...twice. Why should I pay big bucks for cold coffee? I can make my own and it will be hotter and cheaper.


7 posted on 03/26/2012 11:50:52 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

The first two words in the title sums it up nicely.


8 posted on 03/26/2012 11:52:52 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
anybody that spends $15bucks on a cup of coffee has more money than brains...
9 posted on 03/26/2012 11:56:01 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

In my little corner of the world we don’t have a Starbuck’s. I have seen them other places but never had a cup of coffee. One morning, a couple of weeks ago in Atlanta I was invited by a factory rep for coffee at a Starbuck’s. He ordered. I saw the bill, all most $20 for 2 coffees. I don’t care what they support,whether I agree or not, which I don’t in this case, they won’t see me again.


10 posted on 03/26/2012 12:19:04 PM PDT by cork
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

StarBucks has a lion’s share of the “Coffee Cafes” in mega-churches across America. Hopefully these churches will go back to ‘grocery store’ coffee and homemade cookies.


11 posted on 03/26/2012 12:20:11 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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Well, that’s it. I will have a few extra bucks each month now. Won’t hurt Starbucks. But I’ll feel better.


12 posted on 03/26/2012 12:20:33 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: christx30

I have to agree with not participating in a boycott. I know a lot of people who boycott because they are sure that their money goes straight to the abortionist. This would only be true if the people at Starbucks corporate and everyone else in the chain were machines, not humans with free will. The idea of not engaging in trade because you are certain of where the money will go is a bit dehumanizing.

It also makes no sense to cut off the only relationship with the local barista when the company’s finances assume greater loss if they were to switch position. The boycott has (in Just War Theory terms) no reasonable chance of success.

Everyone sins. Some sins are public. Unless you are some form of Anabaptist, you should not be in the practice of shunning. You would end up shunning everyone eventually, and there goes any chance of bringing a community together. We are still mandated to engage activity with sinners - just not participate in the sin.

IMHO, the only real reason to boycott is making a bad product, since trade is the prime motivation to improve the product. Other motivations seem only spiteful to me.

Seraphicaviary


13 posted on 03/26/2012 12:21:58 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Having no values is core values in diversity speech.

When traveling I stop at McDonalds for coffee. It’s hit or miss, as to whether or not I’ll get good coffee, or crap, but by the time I’m ready to stop for coffee, its the caffeine fix I’m after, not the taste.


14 posted on 03/26/2012 12:27:41 PM PDT by pallis
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I buy my coffee from a local business in owned by a Tea Party Patriot. As I mentioned a few days ago in another thread, anyone who traverses Route 17 in Southern VA, and would like a much better gourmet coffee for the morning commute.. AND support the business aspirations of a fellow Patriot .. shoot a private mail over and I’ll give you the location and other particulars.


15 posted on 03/26/2012 12:36:03 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

never visited one... never will...

Thanks for reminding me why.


16 posted on 03/26/2012 12:53:00 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

It’s idiotic business strategy to take a stand on a controversial issue when you have stores on every block and depend on a huge volume of customers. Is Starbucks trying to outdo Carbonite?


17 posted on 03/26/2012 12:58:37 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Their coffee tastes burnt. Fast food and convenience store coffee tastes better.


18 posted on 03/26/2012 1:30:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (If my candidate doesn't win the nomination I'm going to kick my feet, cry like a baby, and stay home)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
LGBTQIA (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, Intersex, Aesexual)

Wait, what? Since when did QIA get added, and I don't even know what Intersex or Aesexual is...?

And I don't really care for Starbucks. Sometimes they have hot chicks behind the counter, but the coffee is too expensive and not good enough to be worth it. Make Dunkin' Donuts coffee at home :)
19 posted on 03/26/2012 1:33:14 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Starbucks held its annual shareholders meeting last week, during which the Seattle-based coffee company affirmed that support for same-sex marriage is one of its core values.

Who's surprised that a Seattle based company (home to aging, leftover hippies) would oppose a conservative value like families?

Anyone?


Anyone at all??

20 posted on 03/26/2012 2:02:32 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
...yelps of outrage from the LGBTQIA (Lesbian,Gay,Bisexual,Transgender, Questioning,Intersex,Aesexual) community...

Wow. They just keep adding letters. I wonder where they will place the "P" and the "B" when they welcome pedophilia and bestiality into the tent?

21 posted on 03/26/2012 3:39:14 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: christx30

I respect your position. But I choose to vote with my pocketbook and buy my latte somewhere other than pro-same-sex marriage Starbucks.


22 posted on 03/26/2012 3:45:22 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: Seraphicaviary
IMHO, the only real reason to boycott is making a bad product...

We are still mandated to engage activity with sinners - just not participate in the sin.

If you are helping them to earn a profit then you are supporting them, and indirectly participating in the sin.

23 posted on 03/26/2012 3:49:32 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Just pick the coffee you like best and buy it. :)

I know, what a concept!

24 posted on 03/26/2012 3:56:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: Seraphicaviary

Barista......just who came up with that, anyway? Let’s be brutally honest; they’re jumped-up soda jerks. Apart from the awfulness of the coffee, this is another reason I never patronize Starbucks. They are just too pretentious.

“Grande”, indeed.


25 posted on 03/26/2012 3:58:08 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

But that’s too simple! We must make this complicated!

How have you been?


26 posted on 03/26/2012 6:40:29 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: CatherineofAragon

>>>Barista......just who came up with that, anyway?

It’s derived from the Italian word for “bartender”.... my little joke with one of my favorite baristas is that it’s Italian for “coffee wench”. :)


27 posted on 03/26/2012 6:48:58 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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28 posted on 03/26/2012 6:55:03 PM PDT by narses
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To: Chode
anybody that spends $15bucks on a cup of coffee has more money than brains...

Nobody spends $15 for a cup of coffee at Starbucks. My grande white mocha runs $4.50, and I don't mind paying it because I like it.

29 posted on 03/26/2012 7:10:05 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: Keith in Iowa

LOL


30 posted on 03/26/2012 7:19:57 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: SandyInSeattle
$4.5 is one thing, but what is their most expensive cup?

never been in one so i don't know

31 posted on 03/26/2012 7:23:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
McDonalds has WiFi and their Coffee tastes much better than Starbucks drip. Same goes for Carl's Jr. Great coffee there as well.

Never have plain Coffee at Starbucks, but once in a blue Moon I get a Grande Mocha. At least I used to.

32 posted on 03/26/2012 7:32:49 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Haven’t spent a cent at starbucks since they came out against marriage.


33 posted on 03/26/2012 7:53:44 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Wait, what? Since when did QIA get added, and I don’t even know what Intersex or Aesexual is...?


Intersex is what used to be referred to as hermaphoditic - some physical traits of the opposite sex being displayed. For example, I went to school with a guy who grew (admittedly small) breasts on hitting puberty and had female body hair patterns. Usually a hormonal disruption during puberty, and easily corrected if diagnosed in time.

Asexual is precisely why is sounds like. Someone with literally zero interest in sex, though, like all of us, they can and do fall in love. They don’t shun it or avoid it, they simply don’t see it at all. In most cases, they do not even masturbate.

I know a lot about this sort of stuff.


34 posted on 03/26/2012 10:56:28 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Chode

A venti is the biggest one, probably about $5. If you really wanted to, you could throw about ten extra shots in there to get the price up.

And people do. Just about everybody in this town is wired.


35 posted on 03/27/2012 8:13:37 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: EnglishCon

Ok, that’s about what I figured with the aesexual.. But why add the intersex thing? That’s more of a physical disorder than some mental issue. And somehow I doubt they even have any members who are these last few ones :/


36 posted on 03/27/2012 11:32:03 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Max in Utah
If you are helping them to earn a profit then you are supporting them, and indirectly participating in the sin.

I completely disagree. That would only be true if they had no free will, which is precisely the dehumanizing behavior that I pointed out. If it were true, then ANY transaction you make indirectly involves you in another's sin. It is acceptable and moral to trade with them to make a profit in a legitimate and moral business. That encourages the legitimate business; it is not a tacit acceptance of immoral behavior done by the person outside of the business. There are other avenues for correcting immoral behavior. We certainly must resist businesses that produce an immoral product, but it is improper to target an otherwise moral product. The only difference between Starbucks and other businesses is that you do not happen to know what immoral things they do after hours.
37 posted on 03/27/2012 11:47:46 AM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Then vote for their support of the Second Amendment.


38 posted on 03/27/2012 12:12:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
OK, thx...
39 posted on 03/27/2012 2:43:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Little Ray

Tell you what Little Ray. I’ll support a coffee company that supports BOTH the Second Amendment and traditional marriage between one man and one woman.


40 posted on 03/27/2012 7:44:30 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: Jeff Chandler

I thought I was alone with this observation. One cup of ‘regular’ coffee in an airport somewhere years ago was enough for me to never patronize them again for this reason.


41 posted on 03/29/2012 4:24:07 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: OriginalChristian

There is an interesting story behind the burnt tasting coffee fad. It seems that the most of the Italians who immigrated to the U.S. were poor people looking for opportunity. Since they could not afford high quality coffee beans, they compensated by roasting the inferior beans longer, giving their espresso that “burnt” flavor that has become so popular. Espresso became “cool” to drink, and the burnt taste became associated with sophisticated taste in coffee products, the sophisticated folk being ignorant to its origins.

For me, Folgers brewed in a drip coffee maker is my favorite, although on rare occasions we put it through a French press for a real kick in the butt.


42 posted on 03/29/2012 9:03:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I have been boycotting them for years because they give money to baby-killers.


43 posted on 03/29/2012 4:33:27 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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