Hemings and Jefferson Together Forever? Troubling cases of Mormon “proxy sealing.”

Slate.com ^ | March 29, 2012 | Max Perry Mueller

[Colofornian]

Thomas Jefferson’s most famous slave, and the mother of several of the third American president’s children, died in 1835...We don’t know when news of Joseph Smith’s... religious movement reached...where Sally Hemings spent most of her 62 years, as a house servant and eventually as Jefferson’s “paramour.” But even if Mormon missionaries had come to Monticello during Heming’s lifetime, they would, per the instructions of Smith himself, have worked first to convert the masters, and only then—with the masters’ permission—the slaves.

Heming’s chance to become a Mormon came much later, in a Mormon temple in Mesa, Ariz., 13 years after the church lifted the ban on full membership for people of African descent. On April 21, 1991, two members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints entered a baptismal font. One...proclaimed, “...I baptize you for and in behalf of Sally Hemings, who is dead.”

SNIP

After the recent furor over Mormon proxy baptism, this news about Hemings should surprise no one. We should...take it as a given that Mormons have baptized by proxy almost every famous person...even Elvis...[...a Jewish friend recently quipped to me, “Mormons can baptize dead Jews when Jews can circumcise live Mormons.”)

What is surprising is that the LDS Church, according to its Family Search registry, considers Hemings to be Thomas Jefferson’s wife. (One of two—the other of course being Jefferson’s legal wife, Martha...)

...Mormons not only believe in baptizing non-Mormons who have died—they also...“seal...” families so they can spend eternity together...

...the LDS church recognizes Hemings as Jefferson’s wife...I strongly suspected that Hemings and Jefferson had been posthumously sealed as husband and wife. I asked the LDS Church to confirm my hunch...the Church obliged: ...Hemings and...Jefferson, I was told, have been posthumously sealed as husband and wife in an LDS Temple...

[Elsie]

Now what are you stirring up when Mormonism has never had a darn thing to do with these people’s careers.

And you know this HOW?

[Elsie]

Mormons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noahides.....

No dogs in the fight, but just want to hang around and support the poor MORMONs.

[Elsie]

Washington DC will be renamed Joseph Smith City and there will be a new check-off on your income tax to cover the costs of “proxy sealing”.

...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: “Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that ‘they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.’

Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.

Mitt Romney thinks that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of GOD.

[MarkBsnr]

Joseph Smith certainly was a profit of God.

[Elsie]

There is another version of this banknote. Any FIs know where to find the picture and data?

[MarkBsnr]

I think that the whole Mormon shebang is as queer as a three dollar bill.

[Tammy8]

I had the same thought. Issues like that are the reason I firmly believe God, and noone else should and will make the decision of who is together for eternity. No one else knows enough of anyone’s life to know.

[Williams]

If you don’t have examples of how Mormon politicians did something wrong because of their religion, then you don’t have much of a point - at least about the politicians.

[Elsie]

I think that the whole Mormon shebang is as queer as a three dollar bill.

From what I've seen in e-mail; the Thai boys make the best looking she-bangs.

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But; OTOH...

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I'm a MORMON ...

 

 

 

http://www.affirmation.org/

[Elsie]

And you know this HOW?

[Elsie]

Three bucks...

 

 

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=kirtland+bank+note&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=mzx4T6WiDYG3tweHoOHoDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CCAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1093&bih=475

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtland_Safety_Society

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

...make the decision of who is together for eternity.

1. There is NO marriage in Heaven. (Matthew 22:29-30)

2. Marriage vows (no matter what MORMONism teaches) are annulled at death. (Reply #32 already explained that)

[Elsie]

(Harry) Reid (who was raised agnostic) and his wife (who was born to Jewish immigrant parents and grew up in Henderson), converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormon or LDS Church) while he was a college student.  In a 2001 interview he said, "I think it is much easier to be a good member of the Church and a Democrat than a good member of the Church and a Republican." He went on to say that the Democrats' emphasis on helping others, as opposed to what he considers Republican dogma to the contrary, is the reason he's a Democrat.   He delivered a speech at Brigham Young University to about 20,000 students on October 9, 2007, in which he expressed his opinion that Democratic values mirror Mormon values

 

 

From --->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reid

[Williams]

That’s interesting but awfully weak. I think you need to open your eyes to their policies more than to their religions.

[Utah Binger]

Get some new Mormon values here: http://soundsofsunday.com/

[mlo]

"Yup; that WAS his point; along with "Do NOT be posting this stuff showing how REPULSIVE MormonISM is!"

OK. So given the first part, why single out Mormonism?

[MarkBsnr]

From what I've seen in e-mail; the Thai boys make the best looking she-bangs.

Don't include me on your email lists...

http://www.affirmation.org/

I'm not even going to open up the link...shudder...

[Elsie]

I think you need to open your eyes to their policies more than to their religions.

Oh; I know about Mitt's politics; most people do.

I am merely supplying data that perhaps shows WHY Romeny has the political values that he has.

[Elsie]

...why single out Mormonism?

Uh; because it's a hellish heresy parading as some kind of Super Christianity?

[Elsie]

Ya big SISSY!