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To: SeekAndFind
The single most distinctive doctrine in all of Christianity is the doctrine of the Incarnation.
I'm not sure that means He gets involved in the details. What about the concept of Free Will? Where does that fit on the hierarchy of "distinctive doctrine" in Christianity?

If God cares about the details, why would he care more about the outcome of a football game than he did about the outcome of Hitler's death camps?

Obviously, in the latter he allowed history to take its course. Evil prevailed because humans chose evil of their own free will.

That principle somehow breaks down in sports? God directs the trajectory of a football, but not the path of a death train?

Doesn't make much sense to me.

5 posted on 04/01/2012 7:29:28 AM PDT by samtheman
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God is sovereign. He gives and takes and we cannot do anything about it. God does not guide Lin’s balls. Lin can guide them perfectly, but God can fluke it to make it miss. Read about the fortunes and misfortunes of history. During Battle of Midway, the first strike of US navy on Japanese carriers failed but it alerted them that US carriers are nearby. So the Japanese launched all their scout planes in a wide arch. One of them spots the US carriers, but his radio fails (it was checked preflight and it was in working order). How come the plane with the radio destined to malfunction was placed in the search arc that would cover the area where the US carriers were? A flick of a placard in Japanese operations during planning could have placed another plane in its place. That is why some people who are involved with competition and conflict understands and very thankful to God because in moments and seconds despite our actions, hundreds of things can go wrong and change its outcome. IMHO God plays a key role. Like Napoleon once said - sometimes in war, a lucky general will suffice. Ancient Chinese military proverb - generals can plan, but only heaven will permit.


8 posted on 04/01/2012 8:07:02 AM PDT by Fee
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To: samtheman; SeekAndFind
What about the concept of Free Will? Where does that fit on the hierarchy of "distinctive doctrine" in Christianity? If God cares about the details, why would he care more about the outcome of a football game than he did about the outcome of Hitler's death camps?

Free will is a myth that is constantly argued by Christians simply because they cannot understand how evil exist in the world. We cannot understand the purity of God nor the brokenness of man. Evil exist not because we "freely" choose to do evil. Evil exist because of our desire to do evil.

The essence of your question highlights this issue. Why would a loving God allow Hitler's death camp? Why not instead say, "Why would a loving God allow my little 'white' lie?" In true what we believe is that there are degrees of sin with God and God certainly should view Hitler's death camp far worst than our little white lie.

In actually to God ultimately sin is sin. And sin is what man desires to do in spite of everything that God chooses to do for us. This is the history of Israel and is just as true today. We are a stiff necked people. We want to sin. If God were to eradicate every sin in the world through conventional means, it would mean eliminating all of us. You may recall this nearly was the result of the Great Flood.

God allows a Hitler or even one of our own white lies to show us the reprecustion of our sin and to draw us toward Him. When David murdered Uriah, the result of his sin was the near destruction of his family and kingdom. But his sin drew him more closer to God and his understand was correct when David said, "Against you and you alone have I sinned." And if you think this is wrong, when there is a tragic event (e.g. tornado, earthquake, etc) one of the first thing people start doing is questioning their existence and flocking back to the churches. Yes, even atheist start up the boards about, "Where is God?"

God directs both the trajectory of a football and the path of a death train. However, every event is planned and calculated to help draw us towards Him. This is the great love of the Father-that in spite of our constant efforts to repel Him, He keeps trying to draw us to Him. Be it in a touchdown or a fatal death. People always seem to question His methods but His motives are very obvious.

12 posted on 04/01/2012 10:54:37 AM PDT by HarleyD
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