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US al-Qaida Official Called Catholics 'Fertile Ground' for Conversion
Catholic News Service ^ | 5/3/12 | Michael Kelly

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:14 AM PDT by marshmallow

DUBLIN (CNS) -- A U.S. al-Qaida official concluded that Catholics were "fertile ground" for conversion, "particularly after the rage expanding against the mother church (Vatican) as a result of its scandals and policies refused by many of its public."

American al-Qaida spokesman Adam Gadahn wrote Osama bin Laden in January 2011 and laid out reasons for reaching out to Catholics, particularly the Irish. He urged bin Laden to use public anger at the church's mishandling of clerical abuse to encourage Irish people to convert to Islam, according to newly declassified documents.

The letter was contained in files allegedly found at bin Laden's Pakistan hideout after he was killed by U.S. special forces in Abbottabad, Pakistan, last May.

The Combating Terrorism Center, a privately funded research base at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, posted a number of declassified documents belonging to bin Laden on its website May 3.

They were taken in the raid on his house.

The letter from Gadahn particularly highlighted the reason for approaching the Irish, noting Ireland was not a participant in "Bush's Crusade wars."

It noted "the increasing anger in Ireland towards the Catholic Church after exposing a number of sex scandals and others" and speaks of the hunger of youths because of the economic downturn in Ireland.

Gadahn wrote that Irish people, "who were the most religious of atheist Europe," were moving toward secularism.

"Why do not we face them with Islam?" he asked.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicnews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Islam
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Yep, there's two or three generations of poorly catechized Catholics out there. Easy prey for the wolves.
1 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:20 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I would prefer to listen to this man. He is the type of man our country needs again. http://www.youtube.com/embed/OvN1jTkzXbY?rel=0


2 posted on 05/04/2012 6:52:41 AM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: marshmallow

Catholics who don’t believe in or practice Catholic doctrine are not actually Catholic.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: marshmallow
Delusional. Even lousy Catholics have a visceral distaste for the whole Islam schtick.

I'll believe this when Nacy Pelosi converts. (I kind of hope she does - she'd look ravishing in a bomb vest)

4 posted on 05/04/2012 6:55:01 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: marshmallow

Oh yes, if you are angry at the church for abusing the young then you should most certainly join the church that married young kids off at 9 years old... /s


5 posted on 05/04/2012 7:01:41 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Chainmail

I hope Adam Gadahn is promoted to the very top of Al Qaeda’s leadership. Clearly a visionary genius.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 7:05:26 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: marshmallow
American al-Qaida spokesman Adam Gadahn wrote Osama bin Laden in January 2011 and laid out reasons for reaching out to Catholics, particularly the Irish.

Maybe that was good advice. Catholic Irish have a good deal of experience with blowing stuff up.

7 posted on 05/04/2012 7:11:33 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Yabbut, if they’ll blow up CofE, it’d be just that much easier to blow up the Muslim heathen.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marshmallow
Why is that POS Adam Gadahn still wasting the earth's O2?
9 posted on 05/04/2012 7:19:38 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: marshmallow
Converting the Irish to Islam? Ha ha, that’ll never happen unless they change their alcohol policy!
10 posted on 05/04/2012 7:34:41 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: marshmallow
Catholic anger with their Church's pedophile scandals will lead them to covert to Islam - a religion founded and sustained by pedophilia? Haaaaa!

If not for the interference of their Leftist collaborators, these brainless Jihadi idiots would have been driven back to their dark ages years ago?


11 posted on 05/04/2012 7:36:58 AM PDT by drpix
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To: RC2

I pray that we can someday have another president like President Reagan.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 7:42:37 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: marshmallow

This would explain why Obamacare requires Catholics to defile their faith (through mandated birth control and abortion involvement) but allows Muslims to be exempt from what the Obama regime calls a “tax”.

IOW, Obamacare forces Catholics to act as if they weren’t Catholic while they and all other non-Muslims pay a “dhimmi tax” that Muslims (the preferred government religion under Obama) don’t have to pay.

This is sharia forced down our throats.


13 posted on 05/04/2012 7:51:06 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: marshmallow

I disagree with bin Laden’s thesis. Once a Catholic, a person is always a Catholic — and that’s with a capital C!!!!

Yes, there are some poorly catechized people out there, but we are the ones who need to lead them back to the One, Holy. Catholic and Apostolic Church.

So evangelize as you go about your day!


14 posted on 05/04/2012 7:51:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: drpix

Is that middle photo an actual photo of weddings?


15 posted on 05/04/2012 7:54:10 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: marshmallow

Perhaps given the outreach kadaffy had with Ireland the rest of the islamic world maybe gets the wrong idea.

Corruption often yields a tangled web.

Here’s a nice story from last year:

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/cameron-libyan-rebels-will-support-ira-pay-out-1-3178444

There are all sorts of relationships between Europe and the Mideast.


16 posted on 05/04/2012 7:56:07 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: butterdezillion
Hamas child brides/mass wedding
17 posted on 05/04/2012 8:03:56 AM PDT by drpix
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To: PieterCasparzen

It’s not just Ghaddafi; the IRA has partnered up with the Palestinian terrorists for decades.


18 posted on 05/04/2012 8:24:35 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: marshmallow

bttt


19 posted on 05/04/2012 8:35:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (De veras.)
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To: drpix

Wow. That is really disturbing. To look at little girls like that in a sexual way is so wrong.

The article posted below the pic talks about child brides dying from genital injuries. I can only imagine what those little girls suffered. And I can’t imagine any self-respecting man being willing to do that.

A comment on that page quotes an imam explaining that though Mohammad married Aisha when she was 6 he only had sex with her when she was 9.

Nine. And this is the guy that Muslims practically worship.


20 posted on 05/04/2012 8:39:41 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: marshmallow

I’d hate to think he’s right, but look how many lapsed Catholics get drawn into stupid and/or evil things.

As for me, once you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior I can’t see any situation which would cause me to want to backtrack on that.


21 posted on 05/04/2012 10:06:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Catholics who don’t believe in or practice Catholic doctrine are not actually Catholic, and therefore still have a chance for salvation according to God's promise in scripture.
22 posted on 05/04/2012 12:26:52 PM PDT by crosshairs (Worship the Creator, not the created.)
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To: crosshairs

You’re going to burn in Hell for that.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 12:54:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: crosshairs
according to God's promise in scripture.

Seems to me that God promised to keep his church free from error through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Seems he also prayed for his disciples to remain in unity, and another Scripture seems to say that "the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much," therefore, we know that that prayer was heard.

So by deserting those promises, Catholics who apostasize demonstrate their faithfulness to God's other promises?

I don't think it works that way, sorry.

24 posted on 05/04/2012 9:23:37 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: crosshairs
Catholics who don’t believe in or practice Catholic doctrine are not actually Catholic, and therefore still have a chance for salvation according to God's promise in scripture.

John 14: 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them; he it is that loveth me. And he that loveth me, shall be loved of my Father: and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 22 Judas saith to him, not the Iscariot: Lord, how is it, that thou wilt manifest thyself to us, and not to the world? 23 Jesus answered, and said to him: If any one love me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and will make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not, keepeth not my words. And the word which you have heard, is not mine; but the Father's who sent me.

We must keep the Faith given to us from the Apostles who received it from Jesus Himself. Is it possible to be saved by God outside of the Faith? Could be - if God were to decide that. But we have no assurance that He will. Rejecting the Faith is not the surest way to one's salvation.

25 posted on 05/05/2012 6:21:36 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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