Uhhhhhhhhh . . . nope. Not an accurate prophecy, if so . . .
Hyper-parochialism is no more fitting for the RCC's than it was for the pharisees 2,000 years ago . . .
Posted on 05/17/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by Gamecock
No one replies. No one says a word. The disagreeing, misunderstanding, the ignoring goes on and on. So...
God is going to bring Christianity together and He tells
you how in prophecy and it’s written in Scripture. Maybe,
those who ignore prophecy so disbelieve God could do it, that it could happen...”soon.”
Somebody reply for Heaven’s sake. Revelation 6:16-17
concerns the Great Warning, the Second Pentecost...oh,
and happy feast day to you all today!
Seeeee....how the very words from Rev 6:16-17 are explained in the prophetic.
love to you all,
stpio
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Apocalypse 6:16-17
And they say to the mountains and the rocks: Fall upon us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth upon the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb: [17] For the great day of their wrath is come, and who shall be able to stand?
GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN
June, 07 A.M.
The Secrets of Man’s Hearts
...My people lay aside your secret sins. Focus on your Jesus, not on this world. REMOVE the sins from your life now in the hour of mercy by the light of my spirit. ALL OF MANKIND WILL SOON HAVE MY LIGHT SHINE INTO THEIR SOULS. WILL YOU BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THAT DAY? OR WILL YOU CRY TO THE ROCKS AND THE MOUNTAINS TO COVER YOU AND TO TRY AND HIDE FROM MY PRESENCE? Better to be humble in my sight today than to wait until that hour. Take advantage of my mercies and graces today. For now is the acceptable time. Now is the day of salvation. Do not presume on my mercy. Cleanse your soul in my precious blood and make your soul acceptable in my sight today. The words of the Lord.
see page 42
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen
What you described above is not on Paul’s list of gifts in 1 Corinthians 12:10. You want so BADLY to believe private
interpretation of Scripture. No way, it’s heresy.
CYC:
“If that is so then please, explain what discernment of spirits is, what did Paul mean?”
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Hi, I didn’t forget you, you asked about the meaning
discernment of spirits. I don’t think it involves as you
said to metmom, the “ability of some individuals in the congregations to distinguish between true and false writings. (1 Cor, 12:10)”
In my own words, it is the gift to discern what is influencing you, the good or the bad.
“Discerning whether the good spirit (the influence of God, the Church, one’s soul) or the bad spirit (the influence of Satan, the world, the flesh) is at work requires calm, rational reflection. The good spirit brings us to peaceful, joyful decisions. The bad spirit often brings us to make quick, emotional, conflicted decisions.”
Ignatius of Loyola taught on the discernment of spirits.
St. Ignatius Loyola: Rules for Spiritual Discernment
FOR PERCEIVING AND KNOWING IN SOME MANNER THE DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS WHICH ARE CAUSED IN THE SOUL THE GOOD, TO RECEIVE THEM, AND THE BAD TO REJECT THEM.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
You want
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of “making it personal.”
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
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Count your Change wasn’t defending private judgment in his comment to metmom? Should I post the entire reply? It read that way to me, it wasn’t Catholic.
I then posted private judgment is not contained in the gifts listed in 1 Cor 12:10. I asked...list which gift please. CYC replied with the gift of the discernment of spirits.
So, we’ve been discussing.
Have you missed the personal attacks on Catholics here?
There’s a snide one in almost every post.
You don't understand!
It's not personal or mind-reading when Metmom points to me and says Catholics don't know Scripture, because she's talking about ALL Catholics!
Now don't you feel better?
“Now don’t you feel better?”
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A little...thank you.
I gotta forget prophecy states, the Remnant is Roman Catholic. We’re trying to help with discussion of our differences...right? Then, when events happen...
It’s not so bad. All you have to do is think like a bigot and refer to ALL Protestants instead of the one you’re arguing with, and the mod will leave you alone.
From my experience, it doesn’t matter how stupid, narrow-minded, or slanderous you are as long as you accuse them all of it.
Of course, that’s also why many of us Catholics don’t bother much with the Religion Forum.
I personally believe the Protestants here bash Catholics, without us even participating, because they convince themselves that vain thrill of self-righteous indignation is actually the Holy Spirit stirring in them. That way, they don’t even notice when God is ignoring them for sins any more subtle than “lyin’, cheatin’, or stealin’.”
What I HAVE said is God's spirit was required just as Jesus said he would send to bring knowledge and correct recollection to the minds of the disciples. (John 14:26).
Some sort of internal attitude check is not the sense of diakriseis since Paul was pointing to miraculous gifts of tongues, prophecy, knowledge, wisdom.
At Hebrews 5:14 Paul uses the term diakriseis in the sense of discriminating one from the other, right and wrong teachings.
It was that ability to “discern spirits” that allowed Peter to detect Ananias’ lie and that of his wife. (Acts 5:1-10).
No private interpretation involved, it was God's spirit acting upon these persons.
“It is noteworthy that one of the gifts of the spirit Paul listed was the ability of some individuals in the congregations to distinguish between true and false writings. (1 Cor, 12:10)
Thus something like the gospel accounts might be accepted as part of the Bible canon immediately as they were quickly circulated while other writings like Jude's might take far longer but it through the operation of God's spirit that the cnon(canon) was set not the imprimatur of councils.
This same spirit of discernment would weed many false writings such the numerous pseudo-gospels and frauds such as The Infancy Gospels of James or Thomas.
With John's writings we have the completed canon to compare anything that purports to be scripture with and so that special gift of discernment is no longer needed as Paul foretold. (1 Cor. 13:8-13)”
I choose my words carefully so I only mean what I say and I've made a case for gifts of discernment by virtue of God's holy spirit of what claims inspiration (spirits) or truth.
Uhhhhhhhhh . . . nope. Not an accurate prophecy, if so . . .
Hyper-parochialism is no more fitting for the RCC's than it was for the pharisees 2,000 years ago . . .
And I understand that Islam is the fastest-growing “faith” in America now. Pretty terrifying.
Good testimony. Basically, a person will be born again when the Holy Spirit convicts him, and your conviction/conversion came as a result of that particular passage in John. It’s always interesting to hear how people realize that salvation is by grace alone — not “vain repetitions”, i.e., “Hail Marys”, and adhering to extreme legalism.
Our good friends are R.C., and live a frantic lifestyle being over involved in charitable events; they truly believe that doing good deeds will make Heaven more likely for them. When I mentioned Isaiah 64:6, that “all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags” in God’s sight, their eyes glazed over.
You’re right that it’s good to be free to fellowship where the Lord leads, and not be connected to a denomination. I’m basically Baptist (Baptist P.K.), but if a non-Baptist church in our area preaches The Word better than a foar-out Baptist church in the area, I’ll attend that other church. Being a born-again Christian is what’s important, not being part of a particular denomination.
One wonders then why we were told to preach the gospel and teach others doesn’t one? If no one here can be used by God I’m sure you could tell us why scripture tells us to “exhort”, “teach”, “spread the gospel” and all of that? Does God use people to reach others or not in your belief system?
Something that is simply beyond the comprehension of those who think that religion saves.
True believers are already unified in the Spirit. Denominationalism (aka churchianity) is NOT Christianity. A one world religion is well, a one world religion, and it's headed by Satan and the FALSE prophet, not God.
Maybe, those who ignore prophecy so disbelieve God could do it, that it could happen...”soon.”
If the prophecies were from God, there'd be something to worry about for sure. But since they're not, there's no concern unless someone follows them.
It's not about church. It's not about religion. It's about a relationship with Christ by grace through faith so that NO ONE can boast.
Nobody needs to become a Catholic to be saved and be sure of it.
1 Corinthians 2:2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
Romans 10:5-13 5 For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
The RCC is the counterfeit church and their doctrines/teachings is about their church and NOTHING to do with God's Church where HIS Holy Spirit inspired WORD reigns.
Also, for a statement to be "making it personal" it must be speaking of another Freeper, personally - not as a group.
Finally, the Religion Forum guideline is that when one Freeper in a sidebar has been warned, all Freepers involved in the sidebar should consider themselves warned as well.
Yes, the Gospel is not get infant baptism, take communion, go to mass and be a good person.
It’s by Grace Alone, Through Faith Alone, In Christ Alone.
A whole church of supposedly 1.2 billion strong is a "remnant"??????
No.
And there's no Scripture to back that up either.
A prophet has to be correct 100% of the time of he or she is a false prophet.
Deuteronomy 18:15-22 15 “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— 16 just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ 17 And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken.
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
"Out damn spot!" The obsessive haranguing of Catholics and attempts by "PROTESTANTS" to provoke Catholics to anger and a censure of Catholics by the mods is akin to watching Scene 5 of Macbeth over and over and over again. If you recall the guilt over the murder of the King of Scotland has driven Lady Macbeth insane and she speaks that line while sleepwalking, trying in vain to remove an imaginary spot of the kings blood that she believes stains her own hands.
The most plausible explanation for the hostility towards Catholics is a deep and denied guilt over leaving the Church and a forced denial over any culpability for the apostasy. For all of the aggressive berating, chest beating and finger pointing what we are really witnessing is our Lady Macbeths driven to irrational discourse as they walk the midnight halls of the Religion Forum wringing their stained hands.
Such deeply troubled people, devoid of any visible Fruits of the Holy Spirit need our pity, our compassion, our forgiveness and our prayers.
Peace be with you.
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