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Did Veggie Tales...teach kids to behave Christianly without teaching them Christianity?
A Twisted Crown of Thorns ^ | October 13, 2011

Posted on 05/29/2012 7:55:04 AM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 05/29/2012 7:55:18 AM PDT by Gamecock
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GRPL Ping.

Thoughts?


2 posted on 05/29/2012 7:57:02 AM PDT by Gamecock
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3 posted on 05/29/2012 7:57:55 AM PDT by Gamecock
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Is this a bad thing?

IMHO, a lot of parents have a very nasty taste in their mouth about Christianity because, their parents forced them to go to church - and they resent that. For them (and largely for me until about 20 year ago), going to Church was a punishment for a crime I never committed. It was a chore that was resented - in short - my parents failed, miserably. To get a child or young adult to understand church, they must enjoy the experience - if not, all you are instilling is a deep seated resentment, and a pretty solid garrantee that they will reject the teachings, and do their best to avoid this again in the future.

My parents failed - miserably with this very simple, and very common task. I have one brother who is now a professed athiest, a sister with a long history of drug abuse (with both of her kids currently in jail) and no interest in church at all, another brother who has (like me) completely renounced the denomination he was raised in, and opted for a different Christian church. 4 out of 4 children renouncing your denomination is pretty much a 100% FAIL in my book.

So, if this program teaches Christian ideals, without espousing Christianity - I do not consider that a bad thing at all. The principles of Christianity are not unique, in that compassion, forgiveness, acceptance and understanding are found in most enlightened cultures around the world. What ever lays the seeds of Christianity, is a seed that may one day bear “good fruit”.


4 posted on 05/29/2012 8:07:32 AM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: Gamecock

My first thought was: where is my hair brush OH where is my hair brush


5 posted on 05/29/2012 8:09:53 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Hodar
The principles of Christianity are not unique, in that compassion, forgiveness, acceptance and understanding are found in most enlightened cultures around the world.

Granted legalistic churches can and do teach moral principles. Sometime with a smile that makes you feel good, sometimes by beating you up.

But of all the worldviews, only Christianity has God coming down to save sinners. The "good" people are pretty much left high and dry.

6 posted on 05/29/2012 8:15:48 AM PDT by Gamecock
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“And now, it’s that time for Silly Songs with Larry.”

But I want Love Songs with Mr. Lunt!


7 posted on 05/29/2012 8:16:02 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (To criticize the government is to speak blasphemy against a liberal's god.)
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To: Gamecock

Kind of like public schools teach kids to think like Marxists without teaching Marxism.


8 posted on 05/29/2012 8:17:08 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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Why do you need a hairbrush, you don’t have any hair!


9 posted on 05/29/2012 8:17:25 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (To criticize the government is to speak blasphemy against a liberal's god.)
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To: Hodar

I agree. Using the Bible and teaching morality is a part of what the schools used to do. That can only be a good thing as opposed to the immorality taught in the schools today. What would have kids have learned if Veggietales had never come to fruition. It may have reached a broader audience the way it was presented. In the long run it can still accomplish God’s purposes. Too bad though, someone else has control of VT today.


10 posted on 05/29/2012 8:18:26 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: Gamecock
Interesting.

Self ping to mull over later.

11 posted on 05/29/2012 8:18:43 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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I gave it to the peach he’s got hair


12 posted on 05/29/2012 8:19:06 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: Gamecock

You can compare Veggie tales to the Gospels or the Cartoon Network. Compared to the latter, it’s a no-brainer.

And when our kids were under 10, there was almost nothing else. We also used The Donut Man and EWTN’s kid’s programming.


13 posted on 05/29/2012 8:20:34 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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That is the irony of the New Testament isn’t it.

The good people go to hell and the bad people are saved.....


14 posted on 05/29/2012 8:21:50 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: Gamecock

Is “Christianly” a word? I think not.


15 posted on 05/29/2012 8:22:28 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Hodar
IMHO, a lot of parents have a very nasty taste in their mouth about Christianity because, their parents forced them to go to church

That is me...my parents crammed Christianity down my throat growing up and now I don't want anything to do with it...I'm so turned off to it...

I do believe in God but that's about it..know some Atheist who are the most moral people I have ever met and some Christians who wear it on their sleeves who are the most lying, theiven hypocrites out there but I know I should not generalize in either case.

Parents has basically disowned me, told me I was never welcome to come home ever again but it is over another lifestyle issue.(no not gay or drugs)...terribly sad over it and don't think I will ever get over it.

16 posted on 05/29/2012 8:24:06 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Hodar

I don’t consider teaching principals but not teaching Christianity such a bad thing. If the goal was to teach Christianity, then they missed their mark, but teaching foundational principals is a worthy accomplishment.

This series should be a tool, and not the only tool, in a parent’s toolbox. It opens the door to more discussion. I am close to two little boys, who never had any Christian teaching before last year. Veggie Tales opened the door to more discussions. They asked me questions, and I was able to tell them about Christ. Veggie Tales opened the door, but I never expected them to do all of the work.

BTW - Veggie Tales helped soften Mom’s heart and prepare it for the seed of the Gospel - which is flourishing now.


17 posted on 05/29/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Gamecock
While what Vischer says is largely true, I'm not sure it was wrong. While, I think using humor and goofy, wisecracking fruits and vegetables to teach kids good moral lessons (backed up by Bible verses and principles) is fine, I don't think it would be appropriate to use them to actually preach the Gospel.

It is the job of parents and the church to teach the Gospel and the heavier theological truths to children. Putting that responsibility on cartoon vegetables is not only unfair, but would probably be irreverent. Wholesome entertainment, with positive messages is great, but it is no substitute for work of the church.

18 posted on 05/29/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: Gamecock

Bfl


19 posted on 05/29/2012 8:34:44 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus to follow...)
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To: Fiji Hill

If it’s not it should be.


20 posted on 05/29/2012 8:39:14 AM PDT by Gamecock
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