Posted on 06/02/2012 4:54:43 PM PDT by Gillibrand
There is controversy in advance of a televised church service on 17 June on ZDF (Cathcon- German equivalent of BBC). The reason: during the service of the Evangelical Free Church congregation (Baptist) in Kamp-Lintfort work where Christians and Muslim work alongside eachother in the mines, there will be a reading from the Koran. As the Baptist pastor, André Carouge explained, Christians and Muslims have maintained close relationships in Kamp-Lintfort since the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 in the United States.
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How about a reading of the Bible during Islamic services?
I did not read the article but just from the brief - what the hell is wrong with these people.
I always knew the end would come, I just did not ever think it would be ushered in by people who should know better.
This is from the article.
So let me get this straight: Allah and the 300 million gods of Hinduism are the same God?
The Farsis of India, once Persians driven out of Persia, worship Allah as well as their plethora of gods?
The Chinese with their zillions of gods (kitchen gods, garden gods, you-name-it-gods) worship Allah too?
The Japanese Shintus worship Allah?
Harharhar, this author is nuts. Technical term.
The Farsis of India, once Persians driven out of Persia, worship Allah as well as their plethora of gods?
The Chinese with their zillions of gods (kitchen gods, garden gods, you-name-it-gods) worship Allah too?
The Japanese Shintus worship Allah? "
There is only one God, the God of the Bible, who is not synonymous with Allah.
There are many false gods, but they all spring from the same source, the Father of Lies, Satan.
So, in that sense, yes, ALL of the above are just slightly different versions the same lie.
No, they don’t worship the same God. Our One God is a Trinitarian God. What all this shows is the utter bankruptcy of what Luther began and the spawn that has been begotten from his breakaway from the Catholic Church.
Chesterton put it best: “Those who believe in everything believe in nothing.”
You do know that Luther believed in one God, don’t you?
You do know that the Catholics were NOT the only Christian Church around, right?
(Feb 6, 2009) Pope Benedict XVI’s recent weekly public addresses in St. Peter’s Square, he quoted Martin Luther in declaring “Sola fide,” that salvation is by faith alone.
And exactly WHY did Pope John Paul kissed the Koran again????
But wrong.
This has NOTHING to do with the almighty Catholic church.
This has everything to do with MEN doing what they feel right in their own eyes.
Biblically based churches, that are non-Catholic, teach that their is only ONE true God. All others are just different names of the same source, Satan.
Acts 4: 10let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11 He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief corner stone. 12 And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
Just as there are Protestant churches and pastors that preach something other than Christ alone, there are also Catholics that teach that Christ ISN'T the only way. They might not be supported or endorsed by the Catholic church, none the less they still preach another gospel. Same as Protestants who preach another gospel.
I, as an Evangelical and Protestant, reject their message of ecumenicalism. There is only ONE true God and only one way to access him.
I also reject your assumption that somehow its a Protestant thing or a non Catholic thing, that the Catholic church holds the corner on the belief of the ONE true God.
You might like to give this a slow, careful, and serious read:
http://www.scborromeo.org/papers/solafide.pdf
You got it all wrong. Catholics have a Catechism where central truths handed down to St. Peter and the Apostles, by scripture, tradition and revelation are bound together as a unifying whole. A single Truth. There are NO many or different paths to salvations. If that were the case, the birth, death, and resurrection of the Christ would be pointless and would be seen as a superfluous alternative. We could all be Buddhists or Hindus.
No sir, there is but one Truth, and there cannot be 35,000 different variations of Christianity that Luther has spawned from the gospel of prosperity aka Joel Osteen to the gospel of socialism Rev. Wright. These Protestant denominations are nothing but wild mushrooming heresies.
I suggest you pick up a book by Hillaire Belloc “Heresy” and engage in some serious reading before venturing into deep waters.
Belonging to the Catholic church doesn't grant you access to God and not belonging to the Catholic church doesn't ban you from it.
There is only one "Christianity", and that is Jesus the Christ came as God in man, died for ALL mans sins, that all MIGHT know salvation and have access to God the Father.
That salvation comes through belief that Jesus is who he said he is, God the Son, and also that he died for our sins and ACCEPT him as Lord of their life.
My salvation is guaranteed and has no bearing on my position on the Catholic church.
Christ alone is more than enough.
No doubt this “Baptist” Pastor denies the Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the power thereof!
Evangelical Free Church congregation (Baptist) in Kamp-Lintfort
Whar us happening here
There is only one “Christianity”
Precisely.
When Christ commanded his Apostles to go forth and teach all nations, it was to teach ONE truth based on the one Church he founded and entrusted this task to St. Peter and his disciples just before his Ascension into Heaven. And He assured that the gates of hell shall never prevail against it. Indeed, it was the Church that sorted out what books, letters, and readings should form the New Testament and what should be left out as Gnostic readings or regarded as Arian heresy.
What’s next mein kampf or the little red book? The insane are being allowed to rule the world. . .
Just my small thoughts on all this mundane arguing.
We are mere humans, sinful, subject to all the deadly sins, and we create churches, sects, and religions, with human notions and rules about what we should believe, and who we should disdain.
We are so silly to believe that we know God, and how to interpret His desires/rules for us. We are mere humans, and we can only see through a glass, darkly.
We only need to know that God gave his only begotten Son to die for our sins, and that we are not worthy of that sacrifice, and we never will be. It is only by our faith, and our hope that we can daily do a bit better than our sinful yesterday, that we can be saved.
It doesn’t matter which denomination we attend. God has told us that His house has many mansions. It does matter that we do our best to love and forgive each other for our sins, trespasses, and failures to live up to the ideals expressed in the Sermon on the Mount.
It matters that we keep the faith in the straight and narrow path, and continually try to find our way to that, and not let ourselves go for the easy wide one.
It is so tempting to change/twist scripture to fit our fallen selves, so we can feel smug/good, rather than to realize how selfish, ego-driven, proud, slothful, petty, envious, etc, we all actually are.
Yeah, I know - you all think you are “without sin among us”. Well, I am not, and I weep every day that I can’t measure up. But, I have faith and hope that His sacrifice, which I do not deserve, will save me,
and, if I could be so bold as to add, we should worry more about the beams in our own eyes, than the splinters in the eyes of others.
Instead of nit-picking about those splinters, we should all be praying to gather for His forgiveness, which we, collectively, do not deserve.
I am not Catholic.
I have many Catholic family including Priests and Nuns, that is the limit of my Catholic experience.
I do know that Catholicism was NOT the only Christian Church around, Catholicism was the predominate group, which controlled many governments.
I was curious what the current Pope had to say about Luther, which is why I included the quote.
I will read your pdf, soon but not tonight, I’ll let you know what I think.
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