Posted on 06/11/2012 6:49:50 AM PDT by marshmallow
Los Angeles (CNN) – The leadership of America's largest group of Catholic nuns will head to the Vatican on Tuesday to address accusations that it strayed from church doctrine.
“I don’t know why Rome is not happy,” said Sister Vickey Haran, a nun from the Los Angeles area. “All of our energies have gone into making ourselves better so that we can serve the poor people of God."
Originally from Sligo, Ireland, Haran has been a nun for 50 years in the Holy Faith religious order, and she's been in the United States since 1967. She said she is heartbroken and angry about the Vatican’s doctrinal assessment that the leadership group representing most American nuns has been challenging the church’s doctrine on homosexuality, the male-only priesthood, artificial birth control, celibacy and abortion.
An April report from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the church's watchdog on doctrine, said the largest umbrella group of American nuns, the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, had allowed "radical feminism" to be espoused at their conferences unchecked. The group represents about 80% of American nuns.
“I think that Rome has to look at itself first,” said Haran, who will not be heading to the Vatican next week. “You know, clean up your own house first because it’s under tremendous strain and stress; it must be, with all of the allegations and everything that has gone on in the past.”
She said the Vatican is emphasizing what nuns don’t do rather than all the good the sisters do.
The doctrinal assessment praised the sisters' work on social justice issues but said they were not doing enough on abortion, same-sex marriage and euthanasia.
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Why are they so deeply interested in what the Church believes and teaches?
They aren't. They merely perceive this to be a 'story' that they can use to augment their fake 'war on women' meme they're trying to push for the 2012 elections. Just carrying 0bama's water.
That nun has the attitude of a petulant child.
The MSM is interested in this story only to the extent that controversy and dissent within the Catholic Church are fomented and catalyzed by their reporting.
After all, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is of the male gender, and anything the MSM can do to tear down this archaic structure is within the scope of its multicultural, gender-neutral, secular progressive raison d’etre.
The Church should kick these commie, lesbian sisters to the curb.
Who do you serve?
I mean the nuns, not you personally.
Well, the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth officially jumped the ol' shark and have declared according to their own pagan magisterium that abortifacients are just fine with them.
Here's the citation from the Topeka Capital Journal.
Now, you may be thinking that a little cabal of nuns in Leavenworth, Kansas is no big shakes, right? Wrong. This is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR business concern, and this example perfectly demonstrates what I and so many others (such as Karl Denninger) have been saying about the evil incestuous problem with the Marxist-infiltrators of the Church and how they have intentionally pushed for government takeover of the care of the sick and the poor.
First, here is a URL documenting the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth Healthcare System's (SCLHS) size:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120417006805/en/Fitch-Affirms-Sisters-Charity-Leavenworth-Revs-AA-
Fitch rates their bonds as AA-. Yes, that's right. They have a Fitch rating. Um, is it just me, or does that seem . . . wrong somehow?
Yeah. So, one more time for those of you who might be new or still haven't figured this out yet. The Marxist infiltrators of the Catholic Church have specifically and consciously pushed for the government takeover of pretty much all charitable functions that WERE the domain of the Church - hence the traitorous alliance with the "democrat" party in the United States.
In doing this, these traitors to Our Lord have essentially used the power of the State to enforce a "mandatory tithe", coercing every earner in the United States through the Internal Revenue Service, regardless of religious affiliation or personal preference, to pay for the services that the Church SHOULD be paying for, but has ABANDONED. That's right. The Church has almost totally abandoned caring for the sick and the poor. Now what we have are these massive for-profit outfits like the SCLHS which are for-profit middle-men who bill everything that would have formerly been "charity" to the United States government - while still trying to lord "moral authority" over everyone else by falsely claiming to be "the Church."
Aside from this being pure evil, the result is a mathematical inevitability: a Ponzi scheme doomed to collapse and failure. But then, that is exactly what the Marxists were driving toward - total systemic collapse leading to the Marxist oligarchs taking complete totalitarian control of the former United States, and then the entire world. The Church has been infiltrated and used as a stooge to push state control of healthcare, care of the poor and the elderly.
The point of the Marxists specifically recruiting homosexualists into the clergy is playing out before our very eyes right now. First, the homosexualists were charged with degrading and draining the Church of its capacity to preach the Gospel, and eventually to have the Church become operationally Marxist itself. The final step in this process has already begun, namely schisming the Church and forming an "American Catholic Church", which will be a neo-pagan Marxist "Revolutionary church" and will operate as a client and front for the Marxist regime in Washington D.C.
The SCLHS is a perfect example of this. First, they want the billion-dollar gravy train to keep flowing and so they will support the Marxist regime to the very end, because the thought of them actually cutting into their TEN-FIGURE portfolio to actually, you know, PAY for healthcare for the poor in a Christ-like spirit of true charity is utterly beyond their comprehension. Are we surprised, given that they approve of killing innocent babies?
Second, since the SCLHS is almost entirely comprised of lesbians, they WANT the Church to schism and they want to form an "American Catholic Church" that will ratify and celebrate their psychosexual perversions, ordain them as priestesses, and then let those "priestesses" MARRY and engage in sodomite acts. They need statist intervention in order to make this happen, and that is EXACTLY what they are getting. The Obama regime has declared war on the Bride of Christ, and is erecting the frame of the "Revolutionary church".
So, at the end of the day, it is all about the love of money, and perverted sex.
People, there is NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.
Finally, one more time, CHARITY and COERCION are absolutely, totally, completely 100% MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. The moment that even the slightest HINT of coercion enters into the picture, charity is DESTROYED. Gone. Adios.
Love (caritas) MUST be freely given. It HAS to be a free choice of the giver. Putting the gun and jackboot of the IRS to people's heads and necks BY DEFINITION exterminates charity. Apparently, every jackass bishop in the Western World today is either too stupid or too Marxist to comprehend or acknowledge this utterly fundamental truth.
ANY bishop who crows on and on and waxes philosophical about the state's NECESSARY role in healthcare, care of the poor or care of the elderly is a heretical jackass who needs to sit down, shut up, beg God's forgiveness for being a Marxist jackass, and then beg the Holy Spirit for a modicum of intelligence and understanding of simple, obvious truths.
Christ charged THE CHURCH with caring for the sick, poor and elderly - IN CHARITY, meaning that the Church FREELY GIVES, beginning with the FREELY GIVEN tithes of the individual faithful, and then FREELY GIVEN by the Church itself to the poor, sick and elderly.
This system worked beautifully up until 50 years ago, when the Marxist-homosexualists took over. Not only did it work, but there was even enough money to build BEAUTIFUL churches. Now the Church pays for none of these things out of its own coffers, and instead money is spent on building butt-ugly churches. There is a relatively new parish here in the Denver metro area for which the rectory - that is the priest's house - cost $800,000. Apparently this priest felt that he "deserved" to be rewarded with an $800,000 pad. Meanwhile, at the Latin Mass parish I attend, the priests live in a small, old house, and donate their $13,000 per year salaries back to the parish. That's telling, don't you think?
These Novus Ordo clergy and religious are TERRIFIED at the thought of being held to the charge and discipline of the pre-Vatican II Church and actually having to spend tithe revenue on CHARITY and embrace poverty themselves, and they will schism the Church before they turn loose of their government coerced ObamaCare/Medicare/Medicaid/SocialSecurity/Welfare gravy train.
Sister Vickey! What is she? The Flying Nun or something? Ridiculous name.
They ought to be “bracing” themselves for another meeting they will have have at some point.
The press is only fascinated by this story because they can’t stand any institution that stands firm against the perversion and filth in today’s secular society. These people desperately need blanket approval of they way they live. The possibility that they may be facing eternal damnation isn’t exactly an affirming and positive message. Every one of these errant Nuns and others who live a sinful lifestyle is still trying to find a way to silence that tiny, little remnant of a voice inside them that continues to remind them that what they are doing is wrong.
Could be worse. Could be "Vicki".
The irony is that it is the older sisters who are the problem. They control the organization and direct it to bad ends.
However, the younger nuns and sisters are a good lot, and very dedicated to the Church and its teachings, and are just as put off by the antics of the older sisters as is the Vatican.
So the resolution, it seems, is to retire the older sisters and reform the organizations, so that they younger sisters can return to their proper service in harmony with the Vatican.
That is because many of the nuns are the type of Christian the MSM wants. Liberal pro death worshipers who don’t really believe in God.
You said it better then me.
The reason why there are newer orders and a stronger appeal of the older orders by the younger women is that they hunger for a closer relationship with God as well as being able to serve both God and their vocations.
The orders that is at friction with the Vatican need a good house cleaning in order for new vocations to come about.
Oh Sister Vicky, have you ever heard of the word OBEDIENCE?
“Brace yerself, idjits!”
Ahh, the classic ad hominem fallacy. Call the other side names to distract from the weakness of your own position. Just because the Vatican has its own problems, does not make what the nuns is doing right, nor does it make what the Vatican is doing here wrong.
She said the Vatican is emphasizing what nuns don’t do rather than all the good the sisters do.
What these nuns are not doing, is being faithful Catholics. They are attacking the dogmas and morals of the Church, which is kind of a big oversight.
What you are NOT doing, can be just as important to your identity as what you ARE doing. Also, lately the Vatican has been condemning a lot of what these nuns ARE doing, not just what they are not doing.
“Catholic feminist admits the CDF is right about wayward Sisters” - http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/1371/catholic_feminist_admits_the_cdf_is_right_about_wayward_sisters.aspx
Wrong; as noted earlier in the article, the CDF noted at length the LCWR's active rejection of Church teachings.
The doctrinal assessment praised the sisters' work on social justice issues but said they were not doing enough on abortion, same-sex marriage and euthanasia.
"Not enough"? Try 'nothing.' From the report (http://www.usccb.org/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfile&pageid=55544):
"while there has been a great deal of work on the part of LCWR promoting issues of social justice in harmony with the Church’s social doctrine, it is silent on the right to life from conception to natural death, a question that is part of the lively public debate about abortion and euthanasia in the United States. Further, issues of crucial importance to the life of Church and society, such as the Church’s Biblical view of family life and human sexuality, are not part of the LCWR agenda in a way that promotes Church teaching." (emphasis added)
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