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To: CTrent1564
>> So here this an allegorical connection to Mary supported by the text.<<

Zephaniah 3: 14-15 is talking about Israel during and after the Tribulation. No reference to Mary can be inferred. The “church” did not replace Israel.

Galatians 4:26 is once again not about Mary.

The tortured injection of meaning into scripture by the RCC is painful to observe. Allegory carried to an extreme is dangerous and the RCC certainly does that. >> Another reference to Mary being the Woman is described in the Ignatius Catholic Commentary on this passage, Revelation 12:1-6 describes a woman wearing a Crown indicating a Queen Mother who bears a royal male child; thus a Queen Mother of a Davidic Kingdom reestablished by Christ, who is from the line of David and the Eternal King of Glory [cf 1 Kings 2:19-20; Jer 13:18].<<

Revelation 12 in no way can be referencing Mary unless she is to come down to earth again to be tortured. Giving double meaning doesn’t work.

>> Finally, you bait and switch alot in your post. The issue was Assumption of Mary, not the issue of Veneration which is to show Honor towards something or some person.<<

It all ties together. All adoration and honor belong to Christ.

64 posted on 06/14/2012 6:15:10 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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Cynical Bear:

I think I cleary stated Galatians was an allegorical reference to the Church. Catholic Tradition as well as the Orthodox see in Sacred Scripture much more theological depth than American Fundies who think they invented Christianity! The meaning of the word Allegory and spiritual sense of scripture seems to have not been taught to you or you just don’t understand it.

I think my post pointed that in Revelation 12, the constant Patristic Tradition, the ones who canonized the Bible, defended Christological and Trinitarian orthodoxy from every heretical notion, are the same ones who saw the Ark of the Covenant as a prefigurement of Mary and thus the interpretation of Mary as the ark of the covenant and the woman in Heaven is entirely supported by Sacred Scripture an the constant and consistent interpretation of the Early Church, the opinion of Cynicalbear and other FR American Fundies, not withstanding.

The opinion of Cynicalbear


67 posted on 06/14/2012 7:19:37 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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