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To: Swordmaker

btw, your find is of such importance - and since none of these researchers seem to know about Raphael trying his hand at a transparent painting..and there are several people who have seen the works according to you..AND... it is not talked about by any art historian that I can find

It would seem this find of yours should be made known to the world who is spending so much time looking at the Veil.

It won’t take you long to find that book. There can’t be very many from 1936 at your University Library. You can search online to find it.

It is beyond me why you won’t share this INCREDIBLE piece of art history to those researching the Veil...unless..of course..it doesn’t exist.


62 posted on 07/06/2012 6:19:16 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Look, RummyChick, you have been making accusations of my making up data in all of your comments impugning my honesty because you can't find a link. I resent that. I assure you that if you check my threads you will NEVER find that I have ever exaggerated a fact I have posted or made up data. I assure you I found and read the translated letters, as have others. This discussion is simply not important enough to me to spend another two weeks of my time to duplicate the research I did six years ago to again find that data. It was posted on FreeRepublic when the Manoppello Veronica was publicized more broadly then and fascinated me. I provided the links and attributions there.

I had discussions with other Shroud scholars about it, including Barry Schwortz, and followed some of their leads. It was not just MY find but others who discussed the Raphael linkage and it was not MY theory or determination that it was a self-portrait of Raphael that I posted. I cannot help it if you can't find those articles now. Once other scientists got a good look at the Manoppello veil and found loads of pigments, it because pretty obvious, that it is a work of artifice, a painting. The 3D scans confirm that. It was of no further interest to me. It is a work of art and I am not an art historian. I am not going to spend any more time on it. The Shroud is my focus on these threads.

By the way, the article by Jaworski and Fanti does not indicate anywhere that they think it is made of Linen. They appear to still think it is Byssus.

63 posted on 07/06/2012 10:26:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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