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To: marshmallow

This puts the entire concept of priestly celibacy on the slippery slope of hypocrisy.


2 posted on 07/16/2012 6:30:00 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Celibacy has always been hypocrisy.

Catholic Priests should be allowed to marry.

I see this as a backdoor to the Priesthood for a man who desires a woman. Become an Episcopal Priest and marry and then change over.

It isn’t right all Priests should be allowed to marry IMO Catholic opinion


3 posted on 07/16/2012 6:39:37 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The Episcopalians don't just change their badges. They have to go through seminary and they are not quite what other priests are- they are limited to that carved out sub-order of Anglican Use parishes. Celibacy was a consciously chosen condition of priesthood and not even universal within the church. Eastern Rite churches that are in full communion with Rome permit a married priesthood, though one may not marry once one is a priest and bishops may not be married. Anglican/Episcopalian bishops who convert are not maintained as bishops but become parish priests once again.

The Catholic tradition of a celibate priesthood is not endangered or confused and is not willing to discard good priests while also not willing to change the Roman traditions.

4 posted on 07/16/2012 6:42:16 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The need for priests in the USA is such that we are bringing in foreign priests to serve more than one parish, in many cases.

To your point though, I can’t say you are wrong. Even Catholics understand how these things look, but actually there always has been this one exception permitted, in some
“some” cases, in some circumstances.


5 posted on 07/16/2012 6:56:10 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Celibacy is alive and well in the Catholic Church and will remain so. These former Anglicans are being grandfathered into the priesthood. They still have to take Catholic theology, etc. classes. I attended the ordination of one in my diocese -- with four younger priests. Yes, his wife and adult children were there celebrating with him.

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6 posted on 07/16/2012 7:56:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

What are you talking about? The Catholic Church does not have a requirement for Catholic celibacy. The Catholic Church also has no rule against married men becoming priests.

Please do something to support your opinion/statement.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 8:09:51 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Buckeye McFrog; All
No, it doesn't and this policy is nothing new. It dates back to 1980.

This was allowed because it was seen as bringing priests 'home' to the Roman Catholic Church.

They were not going to void these legitimate marriages before God and what purpose would it serve to rob these men of their vocation?

It's not hypocrisy, it's a narrow compromise in the interest of unification.

That said, women should not be priests and priests should be celibate. It's not difficult if you're truly called and committed to that life. It's not the burden and huge deal many make it out to be. It's second nature.

8 posted on 07/16/2012 9:38:15 PM PDT by newzjunkey (It'll be Romney or Obama. There's no 'do over' for the gop primary.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
21 of the 22 Churches sui juris that comprise the Catholic Church ordain, as a norm, married men.

One additional fact that you are likely unaware of is that these converts ordained under the Pastoral Provision; as well as other married protestant ministers who convert and seek ordination, must agree, prior to ordination, that if their spouse precedes them in death they will then adopt the discipline of celibacy for the remainder of their life. No agreement, no ordination.

10 posted on 07/17/2012 3:39:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
This puts the entire concept of priestly celibacy on the slippery slope of hypocrisy.

Not really. Neither these men, nor any others, are permitted to marry or remarry after ordination and remain in active ministry.

So the issue then becomes whether or not to ordain married men. The rule in the Greek East has been to ordain married men to the diocesan priesthood almost exclusively. The rule in the Latin West has been to ordain only single men exclusively.

This adds occasional exceptions to the Western rule for married men who have already been involved in Christian ministry in other traditions, that's all.

13 posted on 07/17/2012 5:17:29 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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