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Posted on 07/21/2012 7:28:07 AM PDT by Colofornian
PROVO — A former BYU student who is accused of molesting two roommates faces charges of forcible sex abuse.
Court documents indicate Antonio Rubalcaba Lacy, 18, inappropriately touched a roommate at least three times last year while the victim was asleep. Lacy is accused of doing the same thing three times to another roommate in 2012.
The documents state Lacy confessed verbally and in a written statement after a two-hour meeting with his LDS bishop.
Lacy, who is from Monterey, Calif., no longer attends BYU. He is charged with six second-degree felonies for forcible sexual abuse.
He was never arrested or forced to spend time in the Utah County Jail. Instead, he was given a summons, which required him to report at the jail to be fingerprinted and have a booking photo taken.
Lacy is scheduled to appear in court on Feb. 23.
Please think of the BYU victims first.
Leni
Bad conscience, perhaps? (Lds have to go thru an intensive interview/interrogation every so often with their bishop to gain/retain access to the temple -- called a temple recommend...perhaps it was during one of these sessions...perhaps not)
touched = a victim?
Possibly he was only holding try-outs so he could be like the clown on “sister-wives”. Also, like the jerk in Aurora, he was a college drop-out. Hmmmm! Just sayin’.
Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.
A questionmark (?) on your part?????????????
First of all, the article doesn't say this happened on or off campus...but it does say it happened repeatedly and involved a "roommate"...since BYU doesn't set up "coed" dorm situations...and BYU doesn't sanction off-campus coed rental arrangements...I will assume for the moment that the victim was "male."
But either way, would you want your son or daughter sexually touched while sleeping? How about yourself? Why is this even a question?
How did the guy get away without being arrested?
A summons?
They both woke up. One moved out rather than report it, the second one reported it to their bishop who did nothing, then the second victim reported to the police. After the report became public, the first victim came forward.
ossibly he was only holding try-outs so he could be like the clown on “sister-wives”. Also, like the jerk in Aurora, he was a college drop-out. Hmmmm! Just sayin’.
Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.
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The victims were both male. BYU does not have co-ed dorms and even their “BYU approved housing” (off campus but still run by BYU and still held to BYU standards and 99% BYU students who have to submit to the same BYU code) have the women on one side of the complex and men on the opposite side. I used to live in BYU approved off campus housing when I was at BYU.
And he wasn’t a college drop out, he was kicked out of BYU AFTER the charges were filed.
Just sayin’ you are way off base, buddy.
If he just went to http://www.affirmation.org/ , he could find plenty Mormon homosexuals.
HMMmm...
MALE and FEMALE 'roomates' at BYU?
What could POSSIBLY go wrong??
WAIT!!!
it did NOT say FEMALE; did it!?
"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982
"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65
"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196
"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.
"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965
"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155
"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.
What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?
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Encouraging them to ‘hold fast to the iron rod’ (no I’m not kidding and yes, it is the topic of a lot of jokes at BYU).
You have asked a strange question, then ask why it is a question when you posed it yourself. You, sir, do NOT make sense.
To answer your ridiculous question, I would NOT want my children touched while sleeping. Happy?
My point was that calling someone a victim because they were “touched” was a bit of a stretch. I consider people who were killed or suffered traumatic amputations from suicide bombers to be victims. That’s a far cry from being “touched.”
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