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Black Jews Gain Wider Acceptance
forward.com ^ | 27 July 2012 | Len Lyons

Posted on 07/23/2012 8:22:36 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: cripplecreek; Jonty30

for ethiopian Jews that’s a different case — they are genetically descendents of Jews. For many of those mentioned in the article, this is not the case. They are not genetic descendents of Jacob.


21 posted on 07/24/2012 4:58:11 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: montag813; Jonty30
Only if your Mother is a Jew are you a Jew.

that was my understanding

Otherwise you must convert. -- I don't understand that -- Jonty corrected me that a person who is not genetically descended from Jacob can become a Jew. I'm confused by your statement montag -- what of someone who is not descended from Jacob -- can they convert?

22 posted on 07/24/2012 5:25:54 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

A Jew is born to a Jewish mother or converted ACCORDING TO HALACHA (Jewish law). DNA does not have direct legal status in Jewish law, nor do conversions not in accord traditional religious law.

It must be noted that each case is handled individually, but, generally, in cases where there is doubt as to the status of one’s mother, there is sometimes a kind of abbreviated conversion. This would be the case of certain Ethiopian (and other) Jews who are serious about their Judaism.

It should also be noted that a status granted by the State of Israel does not confer status under Jewish religious law.


23 posted on 07/24/2012 7:13:21 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
A Jew is born to a Jewish mother or converted ACCORDING TO HALACHA (Jewish law)

the first one I understand. The second -- is it possible for a black person with no Jewish heritage or genetics to convert according to HALACHA?

24 posted on 07/24/2012 8:20:55 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: cripplecreek

Falashas. Read “The Sign and The Seal”.


25 posted on 07/24/2012 10:32:17 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: cripplecreek

Falashas. Read “The Sign and The Seal”.


26 posted on 07/24/2012 10:32:29 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Cronos
is it possible for a black person with no Jewish heritage or genetics to convert according to HALACHA?

Anyone from any ethnic group can convert according to Halakhah. Technically there are some restrictions placed on certain historical groups (male Moabites and Ammonites), but since we no longer know who belongs to these groups (or even if they still exist) no one is disbarred ethnically from converting to Judaism.

27 posted on 07/24/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Cronos

Absolutely, the same as any other non-Jew who may convert. These days, almost any Orthodox community of some size has a few black converts.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2001/02/African-American-And-Orthodox-Jewish.aspx


28 posted on 07/24/2012 2:33:46 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto; Zionist Conspirator

thanks, both those posts give me more information. what about acceptance by the wider, non-reform Jewish community?


29 posted on 07/24/2012 11:07:29 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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