Skip to comments.Notre Dame Grad Students Petition in Favor of HHS Mandate
Posted on 07/23/2012 9:03:12 PM PDT by marshmallow
A group of philosophy graduate students at the University of Notre Dame recently created a petition opposing the universitys lawsuit against the HHS mandate. They even go so far as to say that by accepting the mandate i.e., giving up Notre Dames right to act according to its Catholic mission the university could better fulfill its Catholic mission.
We the undersigned members of the Notre Dame community wish to express our disagreement with the universitys decision to file a lawsuit contesting the Health and Human Services mandate that requires employee health insurance plans to provide no cost birth control coverage to employees. We understand that the university administration believes this lawsuit will advance its Catholic mission and promote freedom of conscience. We too are fully committed to freedom of conscience. However, we believe the philosophical and legal arguments strongly favor compliance with the law. Further we believe Notre Dame would better serve its Catholic mission by focusing on improving campus services for families rather than embroiling itself in a legal challenge.
Although we recognize concerns regarding religious freedom ought to be taken seriously, it remains unclear whether providing access to artificial contraceptives actually would conflict with Catholic belief.
The students argue that the mandate might not conflict with Catholic teachings at all because of what they call double effect which posits that in some cases it is permissible to cause harm in the process of achieving something good under certain conditions. Their argument is that it falls under this umbrella of double effect in three ways:
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"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ". Col 2:8
I'm not really surprised. People who can claim that the murder of infants is promoting the health of women and children aren't even Cafeteria Catholics, they're just more Protestants interpreting Scripture and doctrine as they see fit at any given moment. The only reason they prefer to call themselves Catholic is due to the fact that there's tradition and history behind the Catholic Church.
It can't be much longer until King Barry seizes all Catholic Church property and announces the new national Church of the US with himself as the first Pope to mimic the Catholic Church and mock Christ. And why not? Henry VIII did it. That's sufficient precedent now that US courts consider international laws and the laws of other nations. If people can interpret the Scriptures to suit themselves, interpreting the Constitution to suit themselves is trivial by comparison.
Besides, since lot of people who claim to be Catholic and put their politics above their religion wouldn't care, why would the 75% of Protestants who have long wanted to destroy the Catholic Church care?
But, they probably aren’t expected to get honest jobs, pay taxes, or perform any meaningful addition to society. Just sit around and pontificate the unjustness and unfairness of the world.
How liberal of you, blaming others for your own fail. Next you will be blaming Bush.
How large a “group”? And what are they doing at a Catholic school?
Sadly, some people equate more education with ‘wisdom’. These kids might have a lot of book learning, but it only seems to have calcified the secular ideas they wish were actually Catholic teaching. It also doesn’t help that their professors are probably largely of the ‘seamless garment’ variety of Catholic.
Denying the facts and calling someone else liberal for acknowledging reality is the oldest trick in the liberal playbook. Of course, since Alynsky just updated and refined what Luther did it's normal to see folks who interpret Scripture for themselves spinning like tops rather than acknowledging the truth..
Stick with the facts - and do not change the subject - you blamed others for your own fail. Period - Take responsibility for that and don’t do the wiggle dance.
It’s always nice to run into people who are not only incapable of understanding simple sentences but are also dedicated to both deception and their own twisted view of the world.
Funny how they just can’t resist personalizing everything, too. Regular readers in this forum recognize such folks and know full well they’re nothing but the tripe left over as a byproduct of the butchering of hogs.
They never should have admitted girls.
I see you still didn’t take responsibility. Just lots of jabber!
These kids have only a rudimentary notion of how laws are actually made, and how they are translated into administrative rules. They cannot see that the most pernicious effect of the law is to empower the secretary to override specific Catholic doctines. But Notre Dame has brought this down on their own heads, and not just by inviting Obama to speak at the University graduation, but by adopting the LandoLakes policy. More than 40 years of increasing secularization is bearing its fruits.
“It can’t be much longer until King Barry seizes all Catholic Church property and announces the new national Church of the US with himself as the first Pope to mimic the Catholic Church and mock Christ. And why not? Henry VIII did it.”
This threat has already emerged with the challenges to the Church’s tax-exempt status; the property taxes alone on a parish’s property would put it in the hands of the municipality very quickly.
Notre Dame has catastrophically failed in educating these students.
1. Their statement might be arguable in the Baptist Church, where belief is a more personal decision, still weak but arguable, but Catholic Church Doctrine is defined by the Church Hierarchy, and it is unambiguous on contraception.
2. Freedom of religion is a God-given right (or for Atheists a natural right), and such rights take absolute precedence over personal desires or conveniences that are in fashion. If Sandra Fluke and her followers want $3,000 worth of condoms each (just how fast can they go through 42,000 condoms?), they can pay for them with their own money or get the men standing in line for their services to pay the usual and customary rates for their own entertainment.
3. Do these people not understand that compelling others to pay for individual instances of what they see as the murder of unborn children qualifies as casus belli? Are they intentionally trying to provoke a second civil war, or are they really that stupid?
Judging from my parish I say the Catholic vote will help to make Obama a 1 term President.
They're not stupid, just typical narcissistic types with a totalitarian agenda. Such folks always end up believing their own propaganda.
Look at the Town Hall meetings after BarryCare was first passed. Consider just how many of the idiots who voted for that horrible pile of blank pages interspersed with violations of the Constitution were shocked when people were upset rather than falling at their feet and thanking them. Narcissists always surround themselves with people who know they can't handle the truth which just compounds their lack of contact with reality.
I'm sure a few of the democrat fascists are just as violence prone and insane as the Colorado shooter and have fantasies of a Civil War, but for the most part, they just don't believe that there are enough people in the country who disagree with them for it to ever come to that. They think all the disasters they've created have been spectacular successes compared to what would have happened had they not put their vision of socialist paradise in place.