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Is it true Jesus never addressed same-sex marriage?
Baptist Press ^ | Aug 9, 2012 | Daniel Akin

Posted on 08/10/2012 6:48:52 AM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Mrs. Don-o
So most "Christian" churches have already re-defined marriage into a form contrary to what God has designed and defined.

All because Henry XIII wanted a divorce and the Pope wouldn't grant it, so he started his own church. It's slid downhill from there.

81 posted on 08/14/2012 3:25:53 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: stuartcr
It’s all very confusing. There are lots of freepers much more familiar with the bible than me, and some say yes, some say no, with a number of views in between..

Even among FReepers, there is a wide swath of opinion from traditional conservative to self-indulgent libertarian. As with any moral question, it comes down to your own relationship with God. First, do as He taught and read the scriptures. Second, pray for guidance and watch and listen carefully for Him to reveal himself.

82 posted on 08/14/2012 3:42:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Albion Wilde

Since moral questions come down to one’s own relationship with God, why does someone’s religion count so much? How can anyone claim to have the right moral answer? Wouldn’t they all be equal, just dependent upon the individual and his relationship with God?


83 posted on 08/14/2012 8:46:52 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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Since moral questions come down to one’s own relationship with God, why does someone’s religion count so much? How can anyone claim to have the right moral answer? Wouldn’t they all be equal, just dependent upon the individual and his relationship with God?

That is a good question. If you read the New Testament start to finish, you find that Christians are to live in relationship with one another so that they can help each other and develop the community to support the broad agreements in the Old and New Testaments, which would be the Ten Commandments. Jesus was God made Man; he came to earth through a mortal woman to live as a person whom mere mortals could relate to. He taught his apostles and disciples a finer interpretation of the divine law, and brought the concept of individual responsibility and conscience into sharp focus.

The New Testament makes clear that we are all created as unique beings with unique gifts and talents, with God's purpose to make each of us part of His greater plan. Because he made none of us perfect, we are to live in relationship to others so we can combine our gifts to accomplish bringing about His kingdom. This is another reason to be a member of a church group, large or small, bearing in mind that no human is perfect -- all of us fall short of the glory of God.

However, church members can help one another, provide a way to remain accountable for our actions, and importantly, provide an environment in which to raise children or support seekers who are not yet ready to make a full commitment to Christ. No one can be born a Christian -- each must accept the great gift of salvation in his or her heart by asking Christ to accept oneself, sins and all, into His "body" of believers. If sincere, this "conversion", even among those born into a nominally Christian family, is the beginning of living for Christ's will instead of one's own will.

As for moral questions coming down to the individual, this takes place when the great Commandments and the Bible-based teachings of the church community still leave you with questions, or some specific dilemma based on your God-given individual life, such as having a child in trouble with the law, or being tempted to adultery when one's spouse is terminally ill. In these and all situations that cause us concern, we pray for guidance and the course of action that will not disappoint Our Maker. Or, on realizing that we have made a moral error, we pray for forgiveness.

I pray to Our Father to help you find your path and a suitable community of believers to help your journey to the "peace that passes understanding" -- the peace of Christ. Write to me any time, stuartcr.

84 posted on 08/15/2012 10:12:08 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Albion Wilde

I believe I have found my path, thanks.


85 posted on 08/15/2012 10:17:38 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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Excellent. Godspeed.


86 posted on 08/15/2012 10:35:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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