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1 posted on 08/17/2012 2:18:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Anti deficit? Really? Did I read that right? That’s a bad thing?


2 posted on 08/17/2012 2:22:31 PM PDT by barmag25
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And just where in Jesus's teachings does He teach or command Paul Ryan, or any representative in power in government, in the name of "charity," to coercively "take" the fruits of the labor of one man/woman or group of men/women in order to buy approval and votes from those who make up the latter group?
3 posted on 08/17/2012 2:28:12 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Another reason I don’t call myself a Catholic.


4 posted on 08/17/2012 2:30:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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And just where in Jesus's teachings does He teach or command Paul Ryan, or any representative in power in government, in the name of "charity," to coercively "take" the fruits of the labor of one man/woman or group of men/women in order to buy approval and votes from those who make up the latter group?
6 posted on 08/17/2012 2:33:06 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Yet another group of squishy ‘Catholics’ who have fallen for the liberal lie that welfare = charity. I would love to see my fellow Catholics band together and follow the teachings of the Church.


7 posted on 08/17/2012 2:34:40 PM PDT by sbwordman (The most important thing a man can do for his kids is to love their mother.)
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So the Cafeteria Catholics are all pissed off about Ryan being a Deficit Hawk, well boo de frickin hoo.

They can go eat host and drink sacramental wine for all I care.

They are nothing more but an extension of the Liberal Catholics that needs to be expunged from the church.


8 posted on 08/17/2012 2:39:40 PM PDT by GraceG
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WRONG on all counts. The USCCB (Conference of Catholic Bishops) is controlled by social justice Obama leftists. The bishops are pawns in their hands.

Ryan’s own bishop came out in defense of his budget proposals.

And if you were listening to any of the proceedings of the most recent Bishops’ conference, you would have heard a number of bishops get up and publicly admonish Bishop Blaire of Stockton (not by name) for criticising Ryan’s bugdet in the name of ALL the bishops when they, in fact, had not done so. It was the staff at USCCB who issued the criticism.

Everyone must understand that the USCCB is controlled by a small group of leftist Democrats who are trying to hijack the Church just like the leftists have hijacked the Democrat party itself.


9 posted on 08/17/2012 2:43:12 PM PDT by veritas2002
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These people are NOT Catholics. They are Democrat political activists masquerading as Catholics. They are spreading the lie that corrupt government programs that bankrupt our country are in some way good and moral.

Like all institutions in America today the Catholic church is infiltrated by evil people. They condone homosexuality and corrupt politicians. They hide behind lies and false statements. They are not Catholics. It is as simple as that.

10 posted on 08/17/2012 2:51:58 PM PDT by detective
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“Thou Shalt Not Covet”.


12 posted on 08/17/2012 2:53:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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I went to PrayforPaulsChangeofHeart.org and found this post which runs an ad for Catholic Relief Services:

http://www.prayforpaulschangeofheart.org/what-s-happening/urgesenatorkohltoprotectthesafebox

Then this morning I viewed Michael Voris' new video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vmy5EBh0-Cg#!

It's safe to say many people are confused (me, very much included). The Catholic Church keeps giving money to those who give money to pro-abort/pro-contraception organizations.

As far as Ryan's plan, I thought he wanted the Church to step in and help with the poor, instead of draining the government. Am I wrong?
13 posted on 08/17/2012 2:53:27 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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Rep. Paul Ryan has been taking flak from church groups – including the relatively conservative U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the somewhat more liberal group Nuns on the Bus—because his budget could cut money from programs for the poor and elderly.

These "catholics" want to STEAL money from others
so they can claim that they have provided Charity for the poor.

They need to seek YHvH in His WORD !

They are on the wide road to destruction.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
17 posted on 08/17/2012 3:29:20 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's."
- Jesus Christ

Since essentially everything is God's, I interpret this to mean that the vast majority of what we have should be used to do God's work, with government doing only the minimum that we are forced to permit it to do. Unless these Catholics are claiming that the federal government is the best judge of God's Will, or that there is just as much virtue in paying taxes to support Pelosi's bizarre agenda as there is in doing God's work on your own, I suspect they are confused. I would recommend additional Bible study for these misinformed nuns and Franciscans.

19 posted on 08/17/2012 3:41:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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OMG!! They are an EMBARRASSMENT!


20 posted on 08/17/2012 3:43:57 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Ah yes. Another bunch of Obama dupes but these are Catholics. What a joke. Some even are Franciscans. Yet, they certainly do not lead the lifestyle preached and followed by St. Francis of Assisi. In fact, most Franciscan Friars lead a rather comfortable life. Just maybe they should cut back on their high living styles and donate that money to the IRS. Never going to happen. I am also willing to bet these same Catholics have no use for Pope Benedict.


22 posted on 08/17/2012 3:50:26 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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Did they also ask for prayers for biden the pro abortion “Catholic”, if that is even possible.


24 posted on 08/17/2012 4:02:37 PM PDT by italianquaker ( 17 percent of the tea partiers support barry obama, the fox poll said so lol)
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Having a third party confiscate the property of one citizen and give it to another citizen who has no claim on that property is an act of charity.


27 posted on 08/17/2012 4:23:41 PM PDT by windsorknot
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Is it proper for Catholics to pray that God makes someone agree with your political point of view?


29 posted on 08/17/2012 4:31:34 PM PDT by DManA
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Now a group of fellow Catholics from his home state of Wisconsin, including some Franciscan Friars, are calling for the vice presidential hopeful’s “conversion.” The group launched a website, PrayforPaulsChangeofHeart.org, that asks visitors to “Please pray for Paul Ryan, a devout Catholic, to have a change of heart on the federal budget.” It includes a special Rosary prayer to St. Paul, “the great convert,” to bring about a transformation in the anti-deficit Republican. The website also seeks prayers for Vice President Joe Biden, a Catholic who supports abortion rights. And the organizers say their prayers are going out “for President Obama, Governor Romney and all our national leaders, that their hearts may be moved to gi

This is Rape Prayer, not real prayer. This is misusing the concept of prayer as a political shaming propaganda technique, and as such, it is a sin, promoted by liars and hypocrites.

34 posted on 08/17/2012 5:24:41 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I am a pretty good Catholic and I would advise these groups to donate their TAX FREE DOLLARS to further their leftist nonsense!!!


35 posted on 08/17/2012 7:03:26 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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So tired of the social gospel heritics. Leftist politicians in black robes.
39 posted on 08/17/2012 8:18:55 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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