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To: pgyanke

**We are the Body of Christ and She is the Mother of the Body.**

Don’t you find it odd that nowhere in the epistles (letters to the church) do you find that kind of expression? And, as I said before, in the scriptures the Christ didn’t address her as ‘mother’, but as ‘woman’.

**Never? Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.**

Why did you stop before verse 6???
“And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.”

The ‘woman’ is Israel. “For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. For the Lord hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth...” Is 54:5,6 (see also Hosea chap 2).

**And yet Scripture records that the Davidic King did homage to his mother and set up a throne for her at his right hand (1 Kings 2:19). Our Lord is the Word and the Word was made flesh. What is spoken in His written Word is of Himself.**

Solomon showed respect to his mother Bath-sheba, when she came to pass along Adonijah’s request, and had a seat brought in for her sit beside his throne. She did not sit on a throne herself. Furthermore, her request in that case was denied, and Adonijah died.

**Her selection as Christ’s vessel elevates Her just as the gold selected by the refiners was elevated when fashioned into the Ark of the Covenant.**

God told Moses he would dwell between the cheribims on TOP of the Ark of the Covenant? I fail to see the Ark as a type of Mary. I see the Ark as a type of Jesus Christ rather easily. Mary was greatly blessed in her role, I just don’t take the matter any further than that. All power is in God. Only he is worthy of worshipful praise.

Lord bless.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 7:58:35 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel
Don’t you find it odd that nowhere in the epistles (letters to the church) do you find that kind of expression? And, as I said before, in the scriptures the Christ didn’t address her as ‘mother’, but as ‘woman’.

Don't you find it odd to be part of the Body of Christ and not acknowledge your own mother as such? Seriously, this isn't the greatest logical leap in history.

The ‘woman’ is Israel.

Yes. The woman of Revelation is Israel... and Mary. Just as "my Son" in Hosea 11:1 refers to Israel in the particular and Christ in the fulfillment. Scripture is deeper than a 3rd grade reading level. The Old Testament prefigures the mysteries of the New Testament and the New Testament reveals what was hidden in the Old Testament. The virgin which "will be with child" of Isaiah 7:14 found a particular fulfillment in its day but its fullest fulfillment in Mary as noted by the Evangelist (Matt 1:23).

You seem to forget that after Christ's birth, He and His Family were sent to Egypt by an angel in Joseph's dream for their protection from Herod.

Solomon showed respect to his mother Bath-sheba, when she came to pass along Adonijah’s request, and had a seat brought in for her sit beside his throne.

Read my Scripture quote of this incident again... Solomon didn't fetch her a chair, he brought her a throne. I don't know about you but I don't recall another incident in the Bible (nor in world history) where a visitor is sat upon a throne for simple comfort. She was placed upon the throne because it was her right and station. Heck, when the Sons of Thunder asked to sit on Christ's right and left, Jesus said these positions were not His to give as they already belonged to those for whom they were prepared.

I fail to see the Ark as a type of Mary. I see the Ark as a type of Jesus Christ rather easily.

This is silly. What did the Ark do? It contained the manna from Heaven, Aaron's rod and the tables of the Covenant. In short, the bread from Heaven (Christ; John 6:51), authority over Israel (Christ as King), and the Law (Christ as Word). Your analogy fails utterly because Christ is not the Ark... He is its contents.

Going one step further, God's Spirit overshadowed the Ark in his Shekinah glory with just the same Biblical wording and structure as what was described to Mary when the angel said, "The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee."

In short, there is only one person who has born Christ within Her and had the Holy Spirit overshadow Her... and Her name is Mary.

God bless you.

25 posted on 11/11/2012 10:28:17 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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