I'm tired of this, because you struck out a long time ago. I think I'll collapse your tent right now.
(1) The Lord Jesus Christ, who baptizes some with the Holy Ghost, and others with fire, baptized one hundred and twenty souls with the Holy Ghost on the 50th day after His Resurrection, regenerated these repented/believing disciples, including His birth mother, to/for whom all previous sins were confessed and abandoned by Him and them, who were cleansed by His Blood, and there was not one smidgin of water involved.
(2) He continues to do so likewise when with foreknowledge, The God instantaneously through His Unmerited Grace saves more totally committed disciples through their complete trust in The Faith of His Beloved Son, apart from any humanistically ritually applied external fluid to their bodies.
(3) NOW, these saved and in the same twinkling Spirit-baptized believer-priest-progeny, as their first step into discipleship, obediently confess and abandon any further errors the Holy Ghost has brought to they mind, then submit themselves for a display of their new role as a bondslave of The Christ, for a visible consent and verbal witness (Apostles' Creed?).
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Since you resist the particularity of water baptism, I think I can assure you that Baptism in the Lake of Fire, of which The Lord himself partook, the Baptism of Violent Death, had little, if any, contact with Adam's ale or any other.
Neither did the Baptism into Moses, prefigured by the baptism in the cloud and the sea.
In fact, there are seven baptisms accounted for in the NT; and eight, if you recall the mikvah wet-down for the ritual purification customary for the Jewish culture, which prepared them for the plunging in a stream followed by John (at Aenon), Jesus, His disciples, and Philip.
Now, whatever you think of the age at which baptism ought to take place, there is no certain time in ante-Nicene history that paedobaptism was forbidden (though Tertullian counseled against it), only that Scripture shows it would have no effect upon a being that was not conscious of sin, for which The God does not impute sin to the child not aware of and responsible to the Law, written on vellum or in its heart; nor held by Him as guilt-ridden.
"For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law." (Rom. 5:13)
Also, if you are counting that in 1 Pet. 3:21a "The like figure by which baptism doth also now save us ... ", the verb isin the present tense, which means 'constantly,' or 'continually,' or 'continuously,' or 'persistently,' and thus implies action in progress. So it is not in the aorist tense, not punctiliar. It's not going to mean what you'd like; but more, it is a figure of speech, hot an actual hose-down.
The arguments you propose have no force, they are just unprovable assumptions, mostly. Certainly not by proper exegesis. Salvation comes by faith, not by soaking. Baptism in one spirit, into one body (the local autonomous church), and made to drink into one Spirit (not baptistry water, I hope) in a figure of speech. Salvation came to Noah not in the water, but on it. Q. E. D. (1 Pet. 2:20)
So much for now. Probably no more on this, either.
with all due respect, thinking Mary and the Apostles were regenerated on Pentecost is an example of the kooky theology one gets when one is not led by the Holy Spirit, when one’s own pride leads them to think they are going to find something in the Scriptures no one has found before.
Mary was declared by the angel to be FULL OF GRACE. does that sound like she was unregenerated?
Jesus breathed on the Apostles BEFORE HIS ASCENSION TO RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. Peter declared his belief that Jesus was the Son of God. does this sound like they were unregenerated?
your dismissal of the historical orthodox faith as having no force and of being unprovable assumptions is WEAK.
( almost as weak as the Greek gymnastics on Acts 2:38 )
the Bible predicts a time when men wouldn’t heed sound doctrine and instead would be led astray by false teachers.
hmm, the Bible is amazing, it proves itself as the Word of God every day!!
can’t get into tonight, but i NEVER GET TIRED of proclaiming God’s TRUTH, you shouldn’t either.
i am hoping hundreds read this exchange and decide to become John 17 Christians or 1 Corinthians 1 Christians.
some may have never been exposed to historical, orthodox, Biblical Christianity before, you may be included.
i am not sure where you worship, but i suspect it’s the Baptist tradition. i pray people flee this 16th century tradition of men and be added to the Church Jesus established.
let’s look at Philip and the eunuch, it absolutely proves baptismal regeneration and destroys the water baptism is an outward ceremony myth.
also, let’s examine why did Jesus command the Church to baptize?