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Exorcism boom in Poland sees magazine launch
Radio Netherlands Worldwide ^ | 11 September 2012

Posted on 09/11/2012 5:29:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

With exorcism booming in Poland, Roman Catholic priests have joined forces with a publisher to launch what they claim is the world's first monthly magazine focused exclusively on chasing out the devil.

"The rise in the number or exorcists from four to more than 120 over the course of 15 years in Poland is telling," Father Aleksander Posacki, a professor of philosophy, theology and leading demonologist and exorcist told reporters in Warsaw at the Monday launch of the Egzorcysta monthly.

Ironically, he attributed the rise in demonic possessions in what remains one of Europe's most devoutly Catholic nations partly to the switch from atheist communism to free market capitalism in 1989.

"It's indirectly due to changes in the system: capitalism creates more opportunities to do business in the area of occultism. Fortune telling has even been categorised as employment for taxation," Posacki told AFP.

"If people can make money out of it, naturally it grows and its spiritual harm grows too," he said, hastening to add authentic exorcism is absolutely free of charge.

Posacki, who also serves on an international panel of expert Roman Catholic exorcists, highlighted what he termed the "helplessness of various schools of psychology and psychiatry" when confronted with extreme behaviours that conventional therapies fail to cure.

"Possession comes as a result of committing evil. Stealing, killing and other sins," he told reporters, adding that evil spirits are chased out using a guide of ritual prayers approved by Polish-born pope John Paul II in 1999.

"Our hands are full," admitted fellow exorcist and Polish Roman Catholic priest Father Andrzej Grefkowicz, revealing exorcists have a three month waiting list in the capital Warsaw.

Priests performing exorcism also work with psychiatrists in order to avoid mistaking mental illness for possession, he said.

"I've invited psychiatrists to meetings when I've had doubts about a case and often we've both concluded the issue is mental illness, hysteria, not possession," he said.

According to both exorcists, depictions of demonic possession in horror films are largely accurate.

"It manifests itself in the form of screams, shouting, anger, rage -- threats are common," Posacki said.

"Manifestation in the form or levitation is less common, but does occur and we must speak about it -- I've seen it with my own eyes," he added.

With its 62-page first issue including articles titled "New Age -- the spiritual vacuum cleaner" and "Satan is real", the Egzorcysta monthly with a print-run of 15,000 by the Polwen publishers is selling for 10 zloty (2.34 euros, 3.10 dollars) per copy.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: capitalism; catholic; exorcism; exorcist; poland; possession
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"The rise in the number or exorcists from four to more than 120 over the course of 15 years in Poland is telling," Father Aleksander Posacki, a professor of philosophy, theology and leading demonologist and exorcist told reporters in Warsaw at the Monday launch of the Egzorcysta monthly.

Ironically, he attributed the rise in demonic possessions in what remains one of Europe's most devoutly Catholic nations partly to the switch from atheist communism to free market capitalism in 1989....

...."Our hands are full," admitted fellow exorcist and Polish Roman Catholic priest Father Andrzej Grefkowicz, revealing exorcists have a three month waiting list in the capital Warsaw...."Manifestation in the form or levitation is less common, but does occur and we must speak about it -- I've seen it with my own eyes," he added.

1 posted on 09/11/2012 5:29:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Remember, removing one demon without healing the wound that allowed it to enter can allow the door open for seven more even worse to enter!

I’ve done this for too many years. It’s not child’s play and can get nasty. Most people don’t know how to do it.

If it’s done in a public forum, it’s usually not real.

The stronger you feel, the less likely you are able to to this work as you can only perform exorcisms through weakness. If you lower yourself to the level of anger or fear, you lose! Your Love must be unshakable.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 5:38:57 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Alex Murphy

One more thing. Many years ago I had a vision. The “tares in the wheat” that Jesus referred to are these parasitic attachments. They are as real as can be and the demonic ones are not from here. Most however are just earthbound spirits without physical bodies who have been led astray by the dark ones.

Why are they hiding among us? It’s their only chance to make it through the fire without burning in the upcoming global warming. Sad, it’s not going to work.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 5:44:14 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Alex Murphy

Need we remind the good Father that the Nazis left plenty of evil in Poland


4 posted on 09/11/2012 5:59:16 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Alex Murphy

http://www.jonathantw= eet.com/jesus/exorcist.html

Jesus was an exorcist.

Stories of his exorcisms go back to our earliest account of him in Mark. Jesus refers to himself as an exorcist specifically in the ...

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5 posted on 09/11/2012 6:02:11 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: Alex Murphy

http://www.jonathantw= eet.com/jesus/exorcist.html

Jesus was an exorcist.

Stories of his exorcisms go back to our earliest account of him in Mark. Jesus refers to himself as an exorcist specifically in the ...


6 posted on 09/11/2012 6:03:08 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Priests performing exorcism also work with psychiatrists in order to avoid mistaking mental illness for possession, he said.” (While true, many of the psychiatric disorders are caused by these attachments. It’s virtually impossible to find a psychiatrist who is spiritually stable enough to be around during the process. Their intellect does not protect them and they stand a good chance of getting wounded themselves.)

“I’ve invited psychiatrists to meetings when I’ve had doubts about a case and often we’ve both concluded the issue is mental illness, hysteria, not possession,” he said. (But psychiatrists can’t tell the difference)

According to both exorcists, depictions of demonic possession in horror films are largely accurate.(True. However these demons have the ability to know your inner thoughts and will present themselves in the perspective that they expect will scare you the most. Sometimes they will try to fool you by presenting themselves as deceased loved ones. They can be excellent imitators.)

“It manifests itself in the form of screams, shouting, anger, rage — threats are common,” Posacki said.( And sometimes they will just laugh and laugh to cover their fear. )

“Manifestation in the form or levitation is less common, but does occur and we must speak about it — I’ve seen it with my own eyes,” he added. (Yes, it is uncommon. But happens sometimes when you lift out the unclean spirit if the host holds on to it.)

(When you do this properly, you never physically touch the person you are working on. You are protected by a large bubble of light that surrounds you. The dark ones fear the light will kill them and cannot harm you. They will approach you and hiss, snarl, and swing at you, but not come close enough to you to touch you. The Hindu statue of Shiva with the circle of fire around him represents this same bubble.

Some of these attachments do not even know they are causing their host trouble. Since memories are carried in the soul, they often still feel the physical pain of the accident or illness that caused their own physical death. This pain manifests in their host, who has no idea why they are feeling the pain. Often, I have found that allergies go away when the attachment leaves.

Their are consequences of this work. It is not just a quick fix and done as often the strong personality of the attachment becomes the dominant personality of their host. I’ve removed demons, only to find a shell of a soul left behind who had no individual identity. This situation can result in severe depression and a reopening to another attachment. The key is to help the individual to find God and hold on for strength after the attachment is removed.


7 posted on 09/11/2012 6:05:31 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

? It’s their only chance to make it through the fire without burning in the upcoming global warming. .... UMMMM...when is that happening? 400 billion years from now? I probably don’t have to worry about that.


8 posted on 09/11/2012 6:07:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: preacher
Stories of his exorcisms go back to our earliest account of him in Mark.

My favorite is Matthew 8:31 when Jesus drove the demons into a herd of swine.

Thus the invention of deviled ham.

9 posted on 09/11/2012 6:08:14 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Alex Murphy
"Manifestation in the form or levitation is less common, but does occur and we must speak about it -- I've seen it with my own eyes," he added.

Uh huh. Link to the video, or it didn't happen.
10 posted on 09/11/2012 6:38:53 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Alex Murphy
Matt 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

Jesus says there will be MANY exorcists in hell.

I would ask anyone who believes they are an exorcist how they know they are NOT part of this "many."

11 posted on 09/11/2012 7:28:05 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: yldstrk
Need we remind the good Father that the Nazis left plenty of evil in Poland

As did the Communists.

12 posted on 09/11/2012 7:33:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dartuser

“I would ask anyone who believes they are an exorcist how they know they are NOT part of this “many.”

When the disciples asked Jesus why their are spirits that they cannot remove, but He could, Jesus replied that their are some spirits that can only be removed through prayer. The real tough ones can only be done through prayer and you cannot allow prayer to work through you if you are full of yourself. It is not me doing the work. In fact, when it is me, it doesn’t work until I get frustrated and give up. I learn by listening to the words that come out of my mouth. Often these words were scriptures that I had never read prior. It’s a very humbling experience.

Darkness cannot imitate the feeling of the Divine Love that flows through you when you perform this work. It is so wonderful that you would never forgo the experience for any wealth or recognition. This feeling is how discernment works. If a spirit is an imitator, I get a knot in my stomach. If it is Divine, I feel the profound Love.

It is a constant battle to stay connected and it happens in spite of me, not because of me.

I went to the Polish website and read some of the articles from this exorcism group(through Google translator). I have hesitance in believing the work that they do is very profound as they are very critical and judgmental of any behavior they consider to be a “sin.” Just as Jesus said, “I have not come to judge, but to save.” You can only do this work through great compassion, not judgement.


13 posted on 09/11/2012 7:41:57 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Alex Murphy
FYI from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

1673 When the Church asks publicly and authoritatively in the name of Jesus Christ that a person or object be protected against the power of the Evil One and withdrawn from his dominion, it is called exorcism. Jesus performed exorcisms and from him the Church has received the power and office of exorcizing. In a simple form, exorcism is performed at the celebration of Baptism. The solemn exorcism, called "a major exorcism," can be performed only by a priest and with the permission of the bishop. The priest must proceed with prudence, strictly observing the rules established by the Church. Exorcism is directed at the expulsion of demons or to the liberation from demonic possession through the spiritual authority which Jesus entrusted to his Church. Illness, especially psychological illness, is a very different matter; treating this is the concern of medical science. Therefore, before an exorcism is performed, it is important to ascertain that one is dealing with the presence of the Evil One, and not an illness.

14 posted on 09/11/2012 8:19:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: tired&retired
You have not really answered the question ...

How do you know that what you are doing is not contributing to your own destruction?

You have, in the past and again now, appealed to supernatural events in your life for justification of your 'ministry' ... but Jesus says there will be many who prophesy (a supernatural event), cast out demons (a supernatural event), and perform many miracles (a supernatural event) who delude themselves into believing that they have a vibrant relationship with the risen Lord. How do you know that you are not included in this group?

Darkness cannot imitate the feeling of the Divine Love that flows through you when you perform this work.

So a feeling is what gives you assurance of truth? Do you not know that, by their very nature, demonic spirits are capable of deceiving you into believing your own experiences are grounded in the truth? Have you never entertained the thought that you are being tricked and used by Satan's minions? There is a reason why the scriptures tell us (2 Cor. 11) that Satan can appear as an angel of light.

Do the elders of your church know you are involved in these matters?

You must renounce these "arts" that you are involved in. The simple fact that you are still alive is proof that the Lord is long suffering with you. He has given you every opportunity to repent of them.

15 posted on 09/11/2012 8:47:44 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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When Jesus was accused by the Pharisees of doing the work of satan, His response was that a house divided cannot stand. Would satan destroy his own minions? As for me, I can only trust that the experiences are real as I have no experiences to the contrary. They have tried to trick me, harm me and even to kill me due to my work. It is only by the Grace of God that they have not succeeded.

It is not my ministry. It is God’s ministry. I am but a tool. If His choice is that I can return home, I would welcome the event. In comparison, it’s mighty uncomfortable here.

“who delude themselves into believing that they have a vibrant relationship with the risen Lord. How do you know that you are not included in this group?”

This is an excellent question and one I have constantly asked myself. For some reason unknown to me, I feel and sense the contents of people’s souls, including their memories of experiences during their life. I can tell the purity of the motive of their soul just by being around them. You can’t imagine how many ministers who hold themselves out as ministers of God have dark holes in their souls. I am only human and I make many mistakes. My trust in God saves me from myself.

Their is a false or imitation process of this work and also of the born again experience. This does not discount the existence of the real experience. If you could see these people’s souls, you would see a horizontal surrendering of their will to another person rather than an internal surrendering within to God. The horizontal surrender process is an imitation and is very common. It is also temporary! (It is exactly how hypnosis works)

I ask you to go within, ask for your answer in prayer and you will know the answers to your questions. No words directly from me will convince you. Nor does my identity depend upon my ability to convince you. I answer your questions due to your sincerity of inquiry and your concern for my soul.

Yes, the supernatural events are quite common, but they are immaterial as even satan can cause these events. If I identify with these events, I delude myself. I take no credit for the successes as to do so would require me to also take credit for the failures, a burden too heavy for my weak soul to bear.

“So a feeling is what gives you assurance of truth? Do you not know that, by their very nature, demonic spirits are capable of deceiving you into believing your own experiences are grounded in the truth? Have you never entertained the thought that you are being tricked and used by Satan’s minions? There is a reason why the scriptures tell us (2 Cor. 11) that Satan can appear as an angel of light.”

LOL... It is far more than a feeling or even believing. The experience removes all doubt to the point where you “know.” Yes satan does appear as an angel of the light and he has already tried this with me many times. He actually steps into the light so you think it is coming from him. Problem is, you see a shadow rather than a light shining from within his spirit. Only the high demons can step into the Light as the lowly ones are afraid of the light. It didn’t work the first time they hid in the light and hopefully will never work as long as I stay connected to the Light. You cannot mistake the energy of satan himself, nor can you mistake the Loving energy of Jesus or Michael. Intellectual logic can not be trusted as satan can use it to fool you.

Many years ago I was dealing with two spirits who presented themselves as loving grandparents. I had a knot in my stomach and knew something was wrong. All of a sudden the statement “Do you believe that Jesus was born in the flesh?” was uttered from my mouth. These spirits responded “We know Jesus.” The words “That was not the question and the first question was repeated again.” came from my mouth. To which the spirits blue eyes turned to black and then to red as their true nature came out. At the time, I had never read 1John 4 where these words are located in the Bible.

Do the elders of your church know you are involved in these matters?

The elders of my church are in Heaven. I have gone there several times to visit them, beginning with a near death experience over twenty years ago when I was very dismayed that I had to return here.

“You must renounce these “arts” that you are involved in. The simple fact that you are still alive is proof that the Lord is long suffering with you. He has given you every opportunity to repent of them.”

The Lord is not suffering within me. He is in me with much “Joy” and “Love.” The loneliness and feeling of abandonment by being separated from that feeling is one that I never hope happens for long.

For I am in Jesus and Jesus is in me. And since God is within Jesus, God is also within me, just as I am within God. When you are born again of the spirit, rather than the body, you perceive the reality of the experience. Dying daily becomes a blessing in order to maintain the awareness.
And it still hurts each time I must let go of life to live.

PS. The Bible is the truth. Shame so many people do not understand what they are reading. Never trust what I say. Read on your own and go within in prayer to receive your guidance.


16 posted on 09/11/2012 9:48:08 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Salvation

“Therefore, before an exorcism is performed, it is important to ascertain that one is dealing with the presence of the Evil One, and not an illness.”

No matter if it is the presence of an evil one or an illness, they are both created by wounds in the soul. It’s just that with the presence of an evil one, you must remove the thorn before the wound can be healed. Everything physical is a manifestation of the soul or spirit. Illness is caused by a space in the soul where there is an obstacle to Love. This is why Jesus often said “You are forgiven.” as He healed them. And then said, “Go and sin no more.” i.e don’t shoot yourself again and create another wound.

When Jesus healed the ten lepers, only one stopped and praised God. To which Jesus replied, “That man has been made whole.” The reality was that those who did not do so would likely have their illness return by creating another wound.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 9:59:59 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: dfwgator

yep


18 posted on 09/11/2012 2:55:09 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice

I found the Polish Priest exorcism post.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 6:53:41 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar; SeraphimApprentice

Yes, this is the one I mentioned tonight.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 10:06:39 PM PDT by zot
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