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1 posted on 09/12/2012 11:40:57 PM PDT by Frank Broom
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Excellent post and good thought s to ponder.

It’s a bit more complex than would appear on the surface. While you have a conscious aware willpower, you also have an emotional subconscious will power that overrides in the long run.

I work with this in people every day. I childhood perceptual programming event is stored in the soul and established an underlying belief about self.

When a child experiences life events, they view them from the perspective of “How did I cause this to happen.” this is true even when they are victims. As a result it creates subconsciousness guilt. As a result it often causes them to feel the need to be punished in order to get rid of the guilt. If their environment does not provide the guilt, they eventually will self punish through their immune system. It actually causes a reversal in the emotional subconscious reward/punishment system to where they become positively stimulated by criticism and negatively stimulated by praise. They also feel unworthy of God’s Grace that is their for them unconditionally all the time.

Remember, it is based upon the perception of the child, not the reality of the event. I work with older people who have serious illnesses, often cancer.


2 posted on 09/12/2012 11:51:39 PM PDT by tired&retired
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I was recently in the hospital and I felt a little bit guilty because the nurses, who are doing their job, would regularly ask if I was feeling any pain. Meanwhile the elderly gentleman in the bed next to me was missing a leg.

Whenever I returned to the room and he was awake, I would hold his hand for a minute and he would be absolutely glowing. There is healing.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 12:08:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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When Jesus referred to the woman in Luke 13 as a “daughter of Abraham” it was not a reference to a “covenant of healing”. He was contrasting her to his previous reference to the donkey or ox that they would assist. It was if He had said: You know to water your donkey or ox on the Sabbath, would you not help this daughter of Abraham?

The context is not about healing. It is about the Sabbath.


5 posted on 09/13/2012 12:32:12 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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Does God want you healed

Yes, yes, yes, and again yes.

I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

-John 10:10-

9 posted on 09/13/2012 3:15:25 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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Not all will be healed no nor is it GOD's will we all be healed while on earth in these bodies. It's not a matter of faith. It is a matter of GOD's strength working through our weaknesses whatever they may be.

Paul in 2 Corinthians 12 asked to be healed three times and three times it did not happen. Was it Pauls faith or lack thereof which prevented it? No and Paul says so. What was his thorn in the flesh? Some think maybe partial blindness.

GOD wants us all to be healed spiritually for life eternal. Our aches, pains, illness are of this imperfect world and shell pass away just as our bodies pass away. These imperfect bodies are not forever. The eternal soul however lives on and for those who believe and accept GOD's plan of healing from sin they are healed eternal as the spirit being is removed from the cursed {from Eden} carnal body.

14 posted on 09/13/2012 9:51:35 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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Did God want Job healed?

What's the point of asking such a question? We do not know what God wants in any particular context. If you're talking about physical healing, who knows? It could be a test of some kind.

However, if you are talking spiritually, then yes, I do believe He always wants us healed.

15 posted on 09/13/2012 9:55:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I know how I’ll be healed, or can be healed, Mr Broom, and it is not by drinking a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc as I did this evening after going on the wagon a few months ago (where I’m staying, by the way, this is just a necessary break), and not by reading the Holy Scripture, or visiting a Christian Church as many well intentioned souls suggest, and not by volunteering to teach reading to children of prisoners as some fools suggest. I know the remedy, it is earthly, and it still ain’t coming.


44 posted on 09/14/2012 9:57:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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