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Posted on 09/22/2012 7:35:40 AM PDT by daniel1212
He did have a bride, the Church.
It’s crazy to put any credibility into something written 400 after the fact. If I write something stupid about the 1600’s, are they going to give it credibility in another 2000 years?
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/does-new-document-prove-that-jesus-had-a-wife/
“Does New Document Prove That Jesus Had a Wife?” by Jimmy Akin
Wow. The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
Do these fools not realize with this revealation they have utterly destroyed the homoesexual’s meme that Jesus and his disciples were gay?
They can’t have it both ways.
Way too late ... 1 John is clearly written to combat gnostic influences ... that was written in the 1st century. There were already false teachers in Pauls day ...
The Nag Hammadi gospels are neither as old as the Biblical gospels nor anywhere as well substantiated! Based upon internal and external evidence (comparison of fragments and quotations, historical correlations, examination of textual families, etc.) the Biblical Gospels are dated to the first century. Thousands of actual manuscripts exist today, many of which date prior to 200 A.D., including a fragment (writing materials of Biblical age did not last long) of the gospel of Mark. There are also fragments of other New Testament books such as Acts, which are dated to have been written around 50 A.D., and a fragment of the gospel of John dated at 125 A.D. or earlier. Nearly complete copies of both Luke and John exist which are dated from between A.D. 175 and 225.
In contrast, the manuscripts of the Gnostic Nag Hammadi library, which gospels were written 100 to 200 years apart, and discovered hundreds of miles apart, and were copied between A.D. 350-400, with most Gnostic literature being written between the late 2nd to the 5th century. No evidence exists to show that any of these books were written before A.D. 150.
In part of Dan Brown’s “spin cycle” he says that the Aramaic word for “companion” (used in regards to Mary in the Gnostic gospel) literally meant “spouse.” Not only is this translation denied by various Aramaic scholars, but even more critically, the Gnostic gospel of Phillip (in which this was found) was not even written in Aramaic, rather it was written in Egyptian Coptic, which may have been a translation from Greek!
Even in the Coptic translation found at Nag Hammadi, a Greek loan word (koinonos) lies behind the term translated “companion.” Darrell Bock observes that this is “not the typical . . . term for ‘wife’“ in Greek.{28} Indeed, koinonos is most often used in the New Testament to refer to a “partner.” Luke uses the term to describe James and John as Peter’s business partners (Luke 5:10). Michael Gleghorn ©2006 Probe Ministries www.probe.org/content/view/127/169/
Thanks
Damnable Dan Brown
Oh, they have shown that such logic things is not a problem, as they show in forcing sex into passages it does not belong, both in present life and in Scripture, and i was recently contending with such that do: http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13051555&postID=5099811203095067142&page=1&token=1348330594815&isPopup=true
I wasn’t fully aware of that, thanks for sharing. I was basing off of the dating of the Nag Hammadi library and the associated sects like Valentinus’ followers.
All I really remember was the incredibly jarring sexual imagery that was used abundantly in most of the texts, and the inverting of people like Judas and the Serpent as being good against the evil demiurge.
I feel like if most people actually bothered to read the actual texts of Gnosticism, that they’d be turned off quickly to such bizarre beliefs.
See 26 above
I won’t cite your entire #10, I’ll only say that I agree with it.
No scholarship there.
This is depressing to anyone capable of thought.
The very gnostic Coptics were well known for their rejection of reality.
A lot of predictions were made about Jesus prior to His birth.
A lot of information was presented about His life here on earth.
His own teachings are available for us to read.
Where in any of this, did He or anyone else reference his wife or anything similar to a wife?
If He had a wife or even a girl-friend, there would be references to it. Every person writing about Him would have referenced His relationship.
We are admonished to live a Christlike life. How do we do that if a major part of His life is left out?
We will have the servants of Satan with us until Christ returns to claim the righteous as His own.
His teachings about forgiveness, salvation through faith, and kindness to our fellow man, are what are important. Anything else can be sorted out in the new earth, where we’ll have eternity to study the perfection that rescued our pathetic selves.
The one thing I accept as bed-rock truth, is that we are not God forsaken. He sent His Son to save us.
How cool is that!
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I love Dr. Mohler. He is a needed voice of reason against this theo-buffoonery.
I believe Israel is referred to as an Adulterous Wife, and the Church of believers (both Jew and Gentile) are categorized as His Bride.
More importantly, the thousands of doctrines available to the most elementary student of Scripture fly in the face of this purported manuscript, written on a parchment smaller than a business card.
The bulk of Scripture would far more disprove the legitimacy of the document than be counterchecked by it.
The announcement does indicate a significant lack of scholarship at the Harvard Divinity School. Good justification to discount their perspective.
The MSM overall disagrees.
Everybody in these times knew of a Joshua/Jesus. So if someone finds a legitimate or bogus name on a parchment there are numerous to number Joshua/Jesus's from these times.
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