Posted on 10/27/2012 10:53:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Here's the relevant scripture:
"Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife." 1 Cor 7:10-11
Divorce is sin, as it is contrary to the command of God. Separation is allowed, but not divorce.
I think you can, but with all the caveats listed in the lines I quoted in post 2. If you want to keep your soul intact you'd better be praying your way through, and let God guide you. Guilty people need help too; people who have messed up their lives need help. Obviously if God is guiding you through this, if like Mercat you see this as a ministry, you aren't going to approach this work in the same way a shark is going to approach it.
So there are things you won't do for your client. On the other hand, he has an attorney who walks with God. So it balances out.
That was my implication. I could have said, "Can a Christian be a private investigator?" as well ;-). Obviously there is much harm a person can do in these professions, and many possibilities of sin, but there is also a lot of good a genuinely virtuous professional can accomplish.
Divorce is a secular procedure, not a sacramental one. Civil divorce does not dissolve the sacramental bonds of marriage.
That said, there are and can be many victims of the civil divorce. If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of assets, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense. As such, there is a legitimate Christian and Catholic role for a lawyer.
Peace be with you
If I divorce its sin. I’m so grateful that it’s not my job to figure out whether others have sinned. Appearing in front of judges on a regular basis helps me understand what my job is and what it is not.
Thank you for that. I was obviously aware of the command as to a wife, but not for a husband. Was not aware of that. Was focusing on the issue of adultery, not divorce itself.
Any which you look at it, civil divorce is not a good thing and something that is neither pleasing to God nor in line with the teachings of Jesus.
there is an echlisiastical law too. (when they do divorces)
the orthodox churches have recognized “for cause” divorce.
Failing to push yourself away from the table before you stuff yourself is a sin as well...
Does the Catholic religion excommunicate fat people???
Of course you can be both a christian a divorce lawyer.
Its only when one is not thirsty,hungry,clothed and sheltered will one then seek to moralise on one’s (and other’s) life circumstances.
Jesus came forth for SINNERS! End of argument.
Most of our Apostles were sinners! Check them out.
St Matthew was a hated tax collector.
St John and his brother were zealots who would have killed on Jesus’ orders.
St Paul was responsible for the death of St Steven.
St Peter cut off a man’s ear in anger.
The list goes on and on.
What’s important in today’s world is not to “ cast stones “ at our fellow man.
“Its only when one is not thirsty,hungry,clothed and sheltered will one then seek to moralise on ones (and others) life circumstances.”
Christian morality is objective and absolute, not subjective and situational.
“Most of our Apostles were sinners!”
ALL of the Apostles were sinners, as are the rest of us.
“Whats important in todays world is not to cast stones at our fellow man.”
The reference to casting stones refers to someone literally about to be stoned to death in a rather questionable situation in that she was going to be stoned for SUPPOSEDLY BEING CAUGHT in adultery, but where was the man involved? Jesus Christ did, however, instruct her to “go and sin no more”. Quoting out of context misrepresents Scripture.
I assume the lawyer can read, he can see in plain words that Christians should not take one another to law, no doubt he went to college for the purpose of getting the education he needed for financial purposes.
It is him who has to decide if what he is doing is right or wrong, if he happens to be my lawyer in a divorce that i chose i would most likely thank of him as ok, but the one i divorced might think of him as a false Christian.
I would have no right to judge would i?, and would the one i divorced have a right to judge?
That is why we are told not to take each other to law, if we would hold on to what the scriptures tell us we would not be having this conservation.
Maybe the pastor should just preach a sermon on what the scriptures say and give the lawyer something to think about.
Being an innocent man and getting divorce-raped because some entitled American land whale skank you married wasn't Haaaaaaaapy. And having to live in poverty to support her extravagent life style (with payments ostensibly "for the children") while she whores it up with other men.
And worse than that is to be denied all contact with one's children and then find out that Mommy's latest "lover" has been molesting them.
Nice try, there, troll.
So work to restore arranged marriages, since they work so well in your country of India.
Cheers!
In Australia?
Actually, arranged marriages don’t work, unless the female partner is willing to make phenomenal sacrifices for the sake of the marriage.
That said, it is a special hypocrisy to champion the institution of marriage when the bulk of the proponents have indulged in premarital sex and been through multiple partners (8 is just the average), mostly outside marriage, and divorce rates high enough to make marriage more or less irrelevant.
It was like the other thread about the Brazilian woman who auctioned off her virginity for a sum she said she’d use for charity. A whole bunch of commenters went on about how she was a whore, and then someone put this:
“Well, doing it for 3/4 million is better than doing it for a meal at Red Lobster and a couple hours dancing at the high school prom.”
Thank you for your comment. You are 100% correct.
Maybe I was being a tad suscinct with “casting stones “.
I was using those words as a metaphor for “ condemn “.
There are many tough, undesirable and unwanted jobs in the world today.
Think about it. Would one eat meat if one had to kill one’s own cow?
I would be a vegetarian that’s for sure.
Referencing a man being a divorce lawyer and condemning him for it is equally the same as if we literally stoned him.
We all have to share in a vicarious relationship with eachother in a messy world today.
May God bless all workers.
And may God bless you too.
And God bless the USA and Australia.
I wouldn’t do it.
30 Years Ago -MAYBE, at least it was possible when divorces could be contested.
I think you are fooling yourself -maybe it would be a ministry to the golden calf; God has noting to do with it at all since no-fault was imposed nationwide.
Divorce lawyer? The divorce aspect is a preordained conclusion. REALLY all you do is fight over property, finances, and custody. You assist the state in splitting the baby.
Be honest with yourself -there is no justice in no-fault divorce. No-fault divorce promotes injustice and evil.
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